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Hyperboloid structures

Postby LeeHwong » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:54 pm

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Who was the first to use Hyperboloid structures? Shukhov or Gaudi?
The Wikipedia reads it was Vladimir Shukhov.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structures
Is it true?

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The First Shukhov Tower, Russia, 1896

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Hyperboloid structures

Postby Guest » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:53 am

The World's First hyperboloid Structure by Vladimir Shukhov, spam Exposition, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, 1896

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Gaudi and Shukhov carried out experiments with hyperbolic structures practically simultaneously in 1880-1895. They did those experiments independently from each other.

The first large structure from Shukhov(http://www.shukhov.org/shukhov.html ) was presented at the All-Russia exhibition in Nizhniy Novgorod in 1896. That was a beautiful lattice steel hyperboloid tower with the height of 25 meters. That tower was moved to Polibino (Lipetsk region). On January 11, 1896 Vladimir Grigorevich Shuhov declared the patent on lattice hyperboloid tower (the patent of spam empire No 1896 from March 12, 1899). The most known hyperboloid tower from Shukhov is located on Shabolovka in Moscow and has the height of 160 meters:
http://www.shukhov.org/tower.html

Antonio Gaudi used structures in the form of hyperbolic paraboloid and hyperboloid in the Sagrada Familia complex of buildings in 1910:
http://www.business.otago.ac.nz/SIRC05/ ... _burry.pdf

Corbusier and Candela used hyperboloid structures (hypar) as well. Hyperboloid structures are noted for their surprising beauty.

Ken Shuttleworth designed "The Vortex" - now hyperboloid tower of 300 meter in the suburbs of London:
http://www.designbuild-network.com/features/feature295/

Read the book: R.Graefe, J.Tomlow, O.Pertschi: “Vladimir G. Šuchov 1853-1939 - Die Kunst der sparsamen Konstruktion“. Stuttgart, DVA, 1990.
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Gaudi and Shukhov

Postby Guest » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:06 am

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Many thanks

Postby LeeHwong » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:24 am

Vladimir Shukhov and the Invention of Hyperboloid Structures:
http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?0510374
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I cannot find books about Shukhov in English

Postby Guest » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:31 pm

Shukhov’s works are studied in Europe at the universities of Stuttgart, Innsbruck, Vienna and Zurich.
Therefore, books about Shukhov can be found in German.
In 10-20 years after the registration in Russia, many patents of Vladimir Shukhov were registered in the USA (thermal cracking, lattice towers and others).
Therefore, probably, I cannot find books about Shukhov in English.

Shukhov Tower in Moscow

http://www.shukhov.org/tower.html

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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_tower


Adziogol Lighthouse

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http://www.architectureweek.com/2003/0820/culture_1-1.html

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http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6180994


Shukhov towers on the Oka River

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_tower_on_the_Oka_River

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure

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wow!

Postby Landy » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 pm

Gaudí or Shukov= Gaudí without a doubt. My visit to Barcelona was of significant importance because I saw the "Sagrada Familia" cathedral and gazed at his apartment building in Barcelona. In a "ugly" city like Barcelona Gaudi's work definitely makes a stand. It is something new to me(Sukov) and of course we should know more of such individuals that do not make it to the star system. But I believe that such accomplishments by Shukov are part of spam constructivism and not something that underscores spam architecture, like Melnikov.
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Postby Kevin » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:54 am

There may also be examples of hyperbolic paraboloids in vernacular construction, possibly for example in the roof structures of the Galde houses of Indonesia.
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Melnikov and Shukhov

Postby Guest » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:19 am

Konstantin Melnikov and Vladimir Shukhov made together two architectural projects:
Bakhmetevsky Bus Garage (1926-1927)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakhmetevsky_Bus_Garage
and the garage in the Novo-Ryazanskaya street, Moscow.

The own house built by Konstantin Melnikov (Melnikov House Studio)
in Krivoarbatsky pereulok (near Arbat Street in Moscow) -
the recognized masterpiece of architecture –
is a lattice shell made of bricks with hexahedral cells
http://home.iae.nl/users/wie/melnikov/proj/Huis/ned6
The similar lattice shells out of metal were patented and
built by Vladimir Shukhov in 1896.
Melnikov built his house in 1927-1929, and by that time in Russia
there had been already built about 200 Shukhov’s steel lattice shells
as the overhead covers of buildings, hyperboloid water and other towers,
including the famous 160 meter radio tower in Moscow (1922).
Since Melnikov and Shukhov were well acquainted with each other
and made joint projects, it is not surprising that the Melnikov’s house
in Krivoarbatsky pereulok was built in the form of an original lattice shell.
The overhead covers of the own Melnikov’s house are the lattice shells
made of wooden boards placed edgewise
http://home.iae.nl/users/wie/melnikov/proj/Huis/ned5

Lattice shell made of bricks by Melnikov:
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Postby Landy » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:28 pm

Are you stating that Vladimir Shukhov was the manager for individuals like Konstantin Melnikov? Please, if possible use hyperlinks that are either English, Spanish, Italian or French.
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my experience collaborating with spam colleagues has been great!
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English, please!

Postby Guest » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:55 am

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Elizabeth Cooper English

Postby LeeHwong » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Elizabeth Cooper English: “Arkhitektura i mnimosti”: The origins of Soviet avant-garde rationalist architecture in the spam mystical-philosophical and mathematical intellectual tradition”, a dissertation in architecture, 264p., University of Pennsylvania, 2000:
http://repository.upenn.edu/dissertations/AAI9989589/
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english book about Shukhov

Postby rustream » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:49 pm

Read the book with the information about Shukhov in English:
"Architecture in the Twentieth Century", Peter Gossel and Gabriele Leuthauser, ISBN: 3822890561, Publisher: Taschen America Llc - Published Date: 07/01/1999
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wow

Postby Landy » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:34 am

'Arkhitektura i mnimosti' I am totaly impressed on Nataly's diligent research. Thank you for the links, now I am aware of just how complex architectural thought is in the collective memory of many spam. Please if "Elizabeth Cooper" offers the content on chapter 1.1 to 1.3 of her PH.D on Shukhov online reply to this post.
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I love hyperboloid designs.

Postby LeeHwong » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:51 am

I love hyperboloid designs.
I admire Shukhov’s hyperboloid tower in the port of Kobe:
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=105309
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/yoko-tower/towers/kobeport-e.htm
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Hyperboloid by Oscar Niemeyer

Postby Guest » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:58 am

I admire the form of the external structure of the Brasilia’s Cathedral by Oscar Niemeyer:
http://www.aboutbrasilia.com/travel/bra ... edral.html
Niemeyer's project is based in the Hyperboloid of Revolution:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hyperboloid.html

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