Monkey posts

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Monkey posts

Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:22 pm

Nor should, we could say, these forum "apes and monkeys" be ganging up to bash others whom they call "monkeys" and attempting to monkey wrench every post, so that they can declare to all how great they are acting as nothing but monkeys jumping from forum topic to another, dangling from the trees, squeeking about what great monkeys they are.

Good Google boys they are, they just deciphered the latest sequence of letters arranged in a discrete way as food for the monkeys ! (Or, deciphered, at least in the "general sense").
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Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:43 pm

Here is a short list of only SOME of the topics which have been monkey wrenched recently -->>

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter I

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... hp?t=18981

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter II

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... &start=255

Monkey Wrenching Games Chaper III

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... &start=255

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter IV

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... &start=210

Monkey Wrenching Games Games Chapter V

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... 4&start=60

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter VI

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... 0&start=60

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter VII

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... 9&start=45

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter VIII

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... &start=135

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter IX

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... hp?t=19356

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter X

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... &start=135

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter XI

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... hp?t=18980

Monkey Wrenching Games Chapter XII

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/v ... 1&start=15
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Postby Antisthenes » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:45 pm

you have lost it seriously from your belief in ID to your constant attacks on PC

what are you after?
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Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:03 pm

I feel no need to respond to such individuals, who are so antagonistic to ID and so pro Humanism. But, in any event, for the sake of the ears who may wish to know -->>

Anyone, being so harassed and slandered in public to such an extreme degree, on HUNDREDS of occasions, and as in these forums, is compelled to demonstrate the falsity of the claims and the nature of the perpetrators, in order to finally and ultimately clarify the true character of the serious offenses being committed. And these, being committed all in the name of envy, of pride, of a desire to beat down new ideas, systems, visions and posts that may diminish to some degree the hold such individuals believe they hold on the hearts and minds of their audience.

Now, could one who promotes ID be so slandered in public and be made a fool, thus further discrediting such ideas ? By no means.

It can be seen clearly the nature of the perpetrators of such monkey wrenching of topics, and harassing of forum members. These who are doing this questioning now have been the ones most antagonistic to ID, being themselves anti anything this is not pure humanism.

Therefore, Artificial Intelligence & Architecture, Intelligent Design, and the promulgation of advanced ideas of science of the science of architecture are all related at some point, despite individuals efforts to slander and destroy the image of the visionaries.

Visionaries, The Most Loved & Hated in History

(To view the link, click on the blue letters and the forum topic will open in a new window/tab).

This can be said, without failure about great Architects, Future Visionaries, Brilliant Men, and the Movers and Shapers of the World and Future -->>

You either love 'em or you hate 'em. There is no middle ground.

This is why there are so many in the world, as seen in history, who have attempted to tarnish the image of great men.

Notice, in these forums, that it is those also who promote anything out of the status quo lies of modern science that are harassed for their alternative viewpoints. Particularly those with new vision and ideas, and who are the most outspoken. They become the prime targets of all the hatred on the forums, perpetrating themselves, as a group, hatred and lies against the visionaries.

These people now wish to hold us to account, but they forget the day all will be held to account for their evil deeds. So we have only one chance to make it right, as their is no "Second Life" as some would like to believe, in this world. Get things all wrecked now in this life and you are history, there is no turning back.

So know where thou stand, and on a solid rock thou shalt not be moved!

as posted in this topic -->>

Artificial Intelligence & Architecture

and as seen in the post on Architecture & Cinema -->>


Only in a dream imaginary world of fantasy there can be no client.

That is why some of us like to fantasize fancy projects, whether they are built are not. And who knows, if we believe in them enough, they can and will be built. :lol: One must dream, dream and dream until your dream comes true. There will always be those who oppose, who lie, who distort, who accuse, who try to destroy the image of visionaries, confusing the minds of all and accusing the visionaries of madness, of insanity, of this that and the other. Just study history and you will see this. These same people are, at least in these forums, antagonistic towards history, so I think you know who I am talking about. Another clue: "Kill the Brick".

I am only for the Freedom, the exchange of ideas in a free, liberal way, without the need for member harassment and opposition due to pride and ignorance.

The Exchange of Ideas in a Free and Liberal Way?

Down with member slandering, harassment, lies and false accusations.

Down with rude, insensitive behavior and of crediting the worst forum demons :twisted: with glory.

Frequently, people who are well known, gain some degree of respect or become famous at some point, become sort of "Gods", or Cultural Icons, in a sense -->>

Famous Architects - "gods" or cultural icons?

And the "entrapment of words" becomes a pretty game. Such individuals desire to trap others in their words, to find something they can accuse them of, as this person is now doing. Nothing but a game of deception and attempts to discredit others.

Others, in their "spam" responses, go on in their profusion of words to criticize and harass. Their folly, fully exposed. They now flop around as naked fish, devoid of any reason and arguments.
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Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:37 pm

Beyond their hate crimes, these individuals such as <everyone knows who guy who has been harassing me in these forums> are using Cyber Stalking techniques, among others, to further harass and slander other forum members -->>

Cyber-Stalking, a Crime

Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk someone.

It has been defined as the use of information and communications technology, particularly the Internet, by an individual or group of individuals, to harass another individual, group of individuals, or organization. The behavior includes false accusations, monitoring, the transmission of threats, identity theft, damage to data or equipment, the solicitation of minors for sexual purposes, and any form of aggression. The harassment must be such that a reasonable person, in possession of the same information, would regard it as sufficient to cause another reasonable person distress.[

Stalking is a continuous process, consisting of a series of actions, each of which may be entirely legal in itself. Lambèr Royakkers writes that:

"Stalking is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom he has no relationship (or no longer has), with motives that are directly or indirectly traceable to the affective sphere. Moreover, the separated acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but do taken together (cumulative effect)."[2]

CyberAngels has written about how to identify cyberstalking:

When identifying cyberstalking "in the field," and particularly when considering whether to report it to any kind of legal authority, the following features or combination of features can be considered to characterize a true stalking situation: malice, premeditation, repetition, distress, obsession, vendetta, no legitimate purpose, personally directed, disregarded warnings to stop, harassment, and threats.[3]

A number of key factors have been indentified:

* False accusations.

Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them. They post false information about them on websites. They may set up their own websites, blogs or user pages for this purpose. They post allegations about the victim to newsgroups, chat rooms or other sites that allow public contributions, such as Wikipedia or Amazon.com.[4]

* Attempts to gather information about the victim.

Cyberstalkers may approach their victim's friends, family and work colleagues to obtain personal information. They may advertise for information on the Internet, or hire a private detective. They often will monitor the victim's online activities and attempt to trace their IP address in an effort to gather more information about their victims. [5]

* Encouraging others to harass the victim.

Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.

* False victimization.

The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases.

* Attacks on data and equipment.

They may try to damage the victim's computer by sending viruses.

* Ordering goods and services.

They order items or subscribe to magazines in the victim's name. These often involve subscriptions to - potential abuse - or ordering sex toys then having them delivered to the victim's workplace.

* Arranging to meet.

Young people face a particularly high risk of having cyberstalkers try to set up meetings between them.[6]

Behaviors

Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines, online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, Wikipedia, and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked. Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]

More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books designed to get a reaction or response from their victim, thereby initiating contact. [7] In some cases, they have been known to create fake blogs in the name of the victim containing defamatory or - potential abuse - content.

When prosecuted, many stalkers have unsuccessfully attempted to justify their behavior based on their use of public forums, as opposed to direct contact. Once they get a reaction from the victim, they will typically attempt to track or follow the victim's internet activity. Classic cyberstalking behavior includes the tracing of the victim's IP address in an attempt to verify their home or place of employment. [7]

Some cyberstalking situations do evolve into physical stalking, and a victim may experience abusive and excessive phone calls, vandalism, threatening or obscene mail, trespassing, and physical assault.[7] Moreover, many physical stalkers will use cyberstalking as another method of harassing their victims.


Lack of Supervision leads to further abuse by these people -->>

Cyber-bullying

Second, electronic forums can often lack supervision. While chat hosts regularly observe the dialog in some chat rooms in an effort to police conversations and evict offensive individuals, personal messages sent between users are viewable only by the sender and the recipient, and therefore outside the regulatory reach of the cool authorities. Furthermore, there are no individuals to monitor or censor offensive content in electronic mail or text messages sent via computer or cellular phone. Teenagers often know more about computers and cellular phones than their parents and are therefore able to operate the technologies without worry or concern that a probing parent will discover their experience with bullying (whether as a victim or offender).


These people as one forum member (everyone knows who I am referring to), guilty of the most serious of crimes -->>

Harassment by computer

Perhaps the laws in their countries have not caught up with the times, or they are ignorant of such laws.

A further investigation into the subject is called for on this forum, and all evidence can easily be used in a lawsuit against the perpetrators of these crimes.

The difficult thing now is, when they use such techniques of deception, for other forum members and readers to be able to tell who is the "guilty"one, who is perpetrating the hate crimes, as their techniques, as shown above, cause them to pretend they are the VICTUMS, thus further - scam spam - their chance of defaming, harassing, and slandering their victums.

The forum members, on the other hand, stand back in disgust and amazement, as what appears to be an online fight goes on.

The true nature of this offense is being slowly revealed. Those who truly look into this matter, and if needed, in a court of law, will discover the true perpetrator of this most serious of crimes.
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Postby Antisthenes » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:11 pm

^ abuse at it's finest

your supernaturalistic ideas are all in your head bro
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Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:35 pm

So now some try to turn it into a crime, for one to have vision, ideas, new theories of science, new projects at any level desired. This also is foolish thinking. If this were the case, some of the greatest visionaries of the past, including Einstein, would be accused of madness and delusion. What of the religious persecution of the past that burned the heretics and accused those who believed the world was round ?

It is never a crime to inspire, to envision, to dream, to produce the new theories, systems, projects and directives that have the power to re-shape the future and reality, as we currently know it.

For those who continue in this, if they just try to escape their box thinking, and maybe they will make some progress.

let them remove their blinders and soar free to new dimensions.

Then we all shall soar as a bird to new heights, with none to oppress.

Then we will be be free to dream.

Let us envision, inspire and aspire to be the best we can, at what every we do, and there, in the course of time, we will become great human beings. People that all along the course of their endeavors, seek for the advancement of science, of knowledge, of cooperative development efforts aimed at advancing the course of human history.

Let history and science advance. It will not be silenced. It will take it's course, with or without us.
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Postby Antisthenes » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:55 pm

zzzzz

funny how you pretend to know stuff, you sure are creative

but a spammer and nonconstructive none the less
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Postby usarender » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:58 pm

Antisthenes wrote:zzzzz

funny how you pretend to know stuff, you sure are creative

but a spammer and nonconstructive none the less


These people make many claims to in desperate attempts to destroy the image of others.

They have nothing to contribute. What significant posts have they made ?
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Postby Antisthenes » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:37 pm

everybody matters

your char. assassination of others speaks volumes

/me wonders when you will beg/bid for your next job from a fellow agent of spam.
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Postby usarender » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:00 pm

It has been clear all along from these people's motives what their true intent is - in the lies they create and distortion of issues. They have no significant posts to contribute to these forums, but rather persist in accusing other members. It is the same ones who have been coming back in the last few months, seeking for something to accuse of, and pursuing the same tactics as illustrated in the previous post above, of web harassment, IP tracking and other remote hacking attempts to monitor those they so violently seek to persecute on these forums. They will not get very far in their scheming, and the same has already been exposed. Their true nature now revealed, these web demons. :evil:
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Postby Antisthenes » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:15 pm

^ lost
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Postby usarender » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:10 pm

The Lost Boy

(To view the link, simply click on the blue letters above).

usarender wrote:
And, the attacks of some of these web demons :evil: may seem to have ceased for a while, but they will be back again, harassing us and monkey wrenching topics. Their behavior is quite predictable. They lay dormant for a while, then come back with furry like a bat out of hell, accusing and slandering. More will be back to accuse and attack these and other posts I have composed. Like bees attracted to honey, like bears missing their cub, like a tiger with no food for month, they come to devour and destroy.

and -->>

This guy is back at it again -->>

There you have it again


Antisthenes wrote:just write him off as stupid and stop replying to him he believes in 'demons' and take a English grammar class.


Just look now how Antisthenes is distorting the issue, becoming quickly a web :twisted:[/quote]
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Postby Antisthenes » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:30 pm

you act like anybody cares
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Postby usarender » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:39 pm

And the web harassment continues -->>

Further cyber harassment again, in this topic

More lies, deceit, cyber stalking, intimidation and ridiculing, typical behavior of these cyber stalkers. This is exactly what I have been referring to all along, and they will continue in their harassment indefenently, until some action is taken against this type of behavior and the perpetrators of this crime are properly dealt with in a serious way. If this is not done, this harassment is likely to spread over into other topics, again, as the virus of web harassment begins to infect all forum discussions.

These individuals lie dormant for a while, only to come back with the full force of their madness, to launch further attacks of web harassment, further adding to the previous crimes already committed. It is high time some serious action be taken soon against this type of behavior on these forums if these individuals persist in such harassment. They have already been properly warned.
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