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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Recap: Disaster, within a Catastrophe, within a Disgrace! Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Kingship of Bush is being challenged, and he doesn't like it. Let me recap...

Lieing to the American People
Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld felt you could manipulate the facts, lie to the American people over ficticious threats, and attack a sovereign country Iraq. This is just one example.

Bypassing the Supreme Court
Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld felt they had the legal right, in this time of very real Al Qaeda threats and their own contrived war in Iraq, to setup military "black sites" in overseas countries, and in Guantanimo Cuba, to conduct rendition or torture, without the oversight of the American legal system and the Supreme Court of the United States. This is just one example, Presidential "signing statements" are another, there are many more.

Bypassing Congress
Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld have publicly stated they have the legal right to bypass Congress when considering the attacking of Iran, in a mix of contrivances and alleged facts. This is only one example, and probably the most serious.

Executive Branch using Judicial Branch to Smear Opponents
Bush-Cheney-Rove deliberately tried to influence the conduct of the appointed US Attorneys to sully and smear the reputations of Democratic opponents. In turn, 8 US Attorneys were fired from their positions and their conduct and reputation in that position was smeared, as if they had done a bad job. There is the strong possibility that the surveillance resources allowed by the Patriot Act, and the Office of the FBI were also used to smear opponents of the Bush-Cheney-Rove team, which includes Republicans and Democrats. This is just one example.

Establishment of Private Military and Intelligence Apparatus, outside the Control of the United States
By all reported and rumored accounts, and fueled by the tens of billions of cash funding this conflict, the Bush-Cheney-Rove team has apparently setup its own paramilitary organization that includes foreign military fighting forces, security forces, ASSASINATION TEAMS, kidnapping teams, and intelligence resources that bypass the entire structure of the United States of America, operating within and without the United States, probably in secret-collusion with foreign governments, and answer only to themselves.

My opinion: Ending the Iraq conflict would threaten this entire organization, the Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld team would all go to jail, and that is why the conflict continues.
Having met and exceeded all propagandized reasons for being in Iraq, and attacking Iraq, and occupying Iraq, and providing the opportunity for Democracy in Iraq, this cabal is sacrificing American troops and Iraqi/Afghani lives to continue the charade. This Bush-Cheney-Rove team is anti-American, anti Constitution, and anti-world Peace, that is my opinion.

With all the recent spotlights on their previous performances, I agree with Rich Haut, they are wounded and most-dangerous to the whole world at this time.

Impeachments? Yes! Indictments? Yes!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

I did read somewhere that Bush said that a pull-out from Iraq could "cause another 9.11".

Is it just me - or does that sound like a threat ?

The BBC's 9.11 smoking-gun has gone on and become louder and louder. There is now not the slightest question that news services were talking about how the Salomon building (WTC7) had collapsed, and talking about it in detail, half an hour, or even an hour before the building came down. The BBC's coverage was the funniest because the building was being shown live (and still standing) in the background as they talked about how it had totally collapsed.

Also there are some very uncomfortable pieces of film including phone calls to emergency services from inside and around the WTC on 9.11. And lots and lots of people on the scene, just out of the towers, including police and fire services, talking about the explosions, about the white van in the basement - and the "big" explosion "lower down" in the buildings.

However what baffles me are things like the following:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/210307policeharass.htm

That there are terrorists, freaks and traitors is one thing - but for the NYPD to help them is bizarre. How many members of the NYPD died on 9.11 ? Have they no shame ?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: NYPD really keeping a lid on things...for the good. Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Rich...I cannot say anything bad about the NYPD at all. Don't think they don't have their internal issues, they do, but in the case of 9-11 "truthers" blocking a sidewalk in front of a media center...the Police sound like they were doing their job. In fact, I think there is a new law that no 4+ or 5+ people can assemble in a group, on public sidewalks, without a permit, just for public safety reasons. With the ice and snow stacked up on congested cross-walks, we have probably one pedestrian and one bicyclist hit by a car every day somewhere in the city.

Besides, I don't know any of the facts on Rosie's comments or the agenda of the protestors.

But let me tell you this, there is a noticeable extra police presence on bridges and at the airports, and as reported, now on trains, just this week and last.

Something is up, and who would gain from a 9-12?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

Not heard about extra security here, or in Britain - but Israel has issued travel warnings for a mass of countries.

There are confusing reports that the Turks may have moved into northern Iraq. There is certainly a risk that they would and their army is on stand-by (and on the border). They are fed up with the US/Israeli backed Kurdish terrorists.

Both Turkey and Iran have been under attack from the terrorists, but if Turkey attacks and Iran does not, then the situiation becomes very confusing. There were some articles which have been blocked on the web yesterday saying that they have already invaded.

I am not arguing against the NYPD doing their job - it is, like the London police - HOW they do their job.

Who gains from a new attack ? Bush and the gang. What else can they do ? With Scooter convicted and Cheney increasingly in the frame, Bush and even now Rice risking indictments, Blair being edged out and a general strike in Israel, things do not look good.

Out of mere curiosity, I wondered what the Israeli strike was about - and amazingly it is because public sector workers are not getting paid in many parts of Israel. All the workers want is their pay cheques. Sounds to me as if the banana republic is running out of bananas.

9-12 .... could last the whole week.

If Turkey does (or has) invaded northern Iraq then the whole board game swings around. The Kurdish "terrorists" are openly backed by the US, Israel and to an extent the UK. Turkey is of great importance to Europe and Russia. Turkey is a Muslim state - it is "the" modern Muslim state. It is also an ally of Israel and the US, a close ally.

Syria, Lebanon and (I hope) Iran will side with Turkey. Saudi and the Gulf have little choice but to side with Turkey (their Sunni elites were put in power by the Brits after Britain and France divided up Turkey's Empire in 1919).

Europe must side with Turkey, especially with Greece and Bulgaria in the EU, anything else would be fatal to Europe.

The important regional power is not Iran - it is Turkey.

And the bad news ? If this is a double-bluff and Turkey moves into Iraq in preparation for supporting an attack on Iran, then there will be a real war. However I hope that the Turks are as smart as I believe them to be and that they are playing the US Government for fools just like they did before the Iraq attack. If that is the scenario, then 9-12 will be soon and it will be big.

Turkey is capable of running the Middle East - America is not. The worst-case would be if theyhave been offered their Empire back in return for their support. Would that work ? It might. It would bring the ME indirectly under European influence, and so American. Russia would be contained. Israel can be bought off under such an arrangement.

And the price ? Millions dead - millions. I find it difficult to believe that Turkey today would try to reinstate its Ottoman power, but then greed .....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Rosie the Riveter.... Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Rich,

Your predictions have been frighteningly REAL, and I have learned not to dismiss them outright. Oh, by the way, you make perfect sense with your amazing, sometimes contrarian opinions, months before it is reported as news.

OK...two spurious quotes...one from Air America, a promotional teaser I am not sure who said it or when they said it, or how true it is..."Russia predicted an American attack on Iran by ???? Friday"??? I think this is the problem of hearing half of a story, and none of it could be true. What did you hear?

Second quote, from Rosie ODonnell, who told her audience in the last few days something to the effect... "I have one piece of history for anyone who wants to know what is going to happen... 'The Gulf of Tonkin', Google it!"

She could be right, she could be wrong, I have never ever listened to Rosie, or believed in anything she had to say, I never had an opinion till now, but GOD Bless her!!!! A quotation like that can only save lives. What a patriot, if she is right or if she is wrong, God Bless her for standing up and expressing her outrage at the insanity of this situation!

God help us if she is right, as we suspect!

How come the women are standing up, and the men are squatting down?

Nancy Pelosi, Cindy Sheehan, Rosie the Riveter... stand up and cheer!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

Yes, Ed - it was a report in late February by the Russian news agency RIA-Novosti quoting senior Russian military intelligence. They said that America is to attack Iran on or before 6th. April 2007 (Good Friday). The reason for the timing is that the West is quietened down for Easter. Attack to go on from 4am to 4pm.

I didn't mention it because it looked too credible. (Who wants to spread fear for the hell of it ?)

Will there be another 9.11 - Gulf of Tonkin ? There would need to be.

However it may not happen. The only reason that I can see is that if one considers the stating of these massive lies and deceptions, like the giant mise-en-scène of 9.11, it was always considered (in programmes like MK-Ultra) that the lie itself had to be placed in a credible location. So when CNN or the BBC said what had happened in 2001, people believed what they were told. The risk for those who have betrayed their own countries, like Bush and Blair, is that if there is another 9.11, too many may look AT THEM and not at semi-mythical figures living in caves to make accusations.

To be credible, there would probably need to be several attacks - on America, on Britain and possibly on the French Carrier Charles-de-Gaulle which, with utter stupidity, has been sent to the Arabian Sea.

However do not underestimate how clever all this is. The drivel about the British sailors has hit the right buttons in Britain. The Brits are huffing and puffing as if it was a hundred years ago. And if America gets involved in a real war (telling us after it has started) it just might swing US opinion behind national defence.

What can we do about it ? Not much. Just hope that it is not going to happen.

This would all be fascinating to watch from another planet .....

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Bringing True Democracy to America, from the Bottom Up Reply with quoteFind all posts by Antisthenes

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We must stop acting as if we are living on the plantation and take personal responsibility for what the government is doing in our name. This will require organized resistance beginning at the community level and spreading outward. It all begins with the personal choices we make. Ultimately, it will require global solidarity to meet a threat that is also global in extent.


I have been thinking a great deal of late about government and its relationship to the citizenry. It should be obvious that any government that claims to be of the people and for the people must also serve the people. Yet it is clear that the current government does not serve the people—it exploits them. When sixty-four percent of the citizenry demand an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq and the government responds not by withdrawing its troops, but by escalating the war, that government cannot be a government of the people, for the people, and by the people. What is it then?

It is a government of the wealthy; a corporate, fascist government of the highest order. It is a government that spurns ordinary people and uses its power against them. It is the opposite of the kind of representative government it purports to be. It extorts tax dollars from its citizens and sends them to do the bidding of the very wealthy under the pretense of patriotism and national defense. It is, in fact, using citizens against citizens and plundering the national treasure with the tools of empire, class warfare, and imperialism.

Every military weapon that is manufactured and put in use diminishes us as a nation. Militarism enriches the defense contractors and the plutocracy by robbing the citizens. It deprives us of an urgently needed national health care system, better schools, decent jobs that provide living wages; and it exacts social and environmental costs that are incalculable, all of which are important to ordinary Americans.

We do not have a government based upon the rule of law or equality, as evidenced by its own history—even its recent history, as we saw in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina; or in the dilapidated military hospitals across the land where limbless soldiers cannot get the health care they so desperately need, and lie waiting and wasting in filth and ruin. These are the troops the government purports to care so much about. Broken men and women from combat zones are the worn out tools of empire builders. Like unwanted toys, they are used up and no longer played with by our rulers; an embarrassment, something to be warehoused safely from public view.

The president and his minions behave as if they are above the law. Laws apply to his subjects, but not to the King who thinks he is the supreme ruler.

They want us to believe that we support our troops by placing magnetic ribbons on our vehicles and by prominently displaying American flags. But Walter Reed and other military hospitals across the land reveal what we really think about our military veterans in ways that cannot be offset by patriotic trinkets and jingoism. The government honors them in patriotic language even as they abandon them in deed.

There is a constant tension that exists between the government and the governed. The people are disorganized and the government is doing everything in its power to keep them that way. Nearly all of the public good that was ever accomplished in this country came as the result of public outcry for justice, a cry that brought people together in mass to organize against gross injustice. That is how chattel slavery was finally abolished. It is how civil rights were won. Organized mass civil disobedience and protest brought the Viet Nam war to an end.

When enough good people unite in common cause, government is forced to hear their voice and meet their demands. I should note here that it is only unjust governments that have anything to fear from its citizenry. Democratic governments do not treat its own citizens like terrorists by trying to quell dissent or spying on them. Nor do they imprison those who disagree with them and uphold a higher code of ethics and conduct than them.

The Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence—all of them important and eloquent documents—did not bring about the most important achievements in American history. Ordinary citizens did all of that by organizing and demanding justice. Freedom isn’t won in the courts or secured in documents; it is won in the streets through the deeds of an aroused and just citizenry. Just laws can be written but it is ordinary people who must bring them to life and give them meaning. Integrity must live in the hearts of the citizenry. Justice is not a noun—it is a verb that must be driven by principled action.

An alert, thoughtful, rational, conscientious citizenry; an aroused citizenry, is the worst nightmare of tyranny. That is why the government is spying on its citizens. That is why posse comitatus and habeas corpus were revoked by the Bush regime and enabled by a timorous congress. It has nothing to do with fighting terrorism. The government is keeping an eye on us, looking for signs of trouble. They must keep us from coming together, from organizing against the established order just as radical unions are kept out of the work place.

Most of the citizens of the United States, while quite naïve, are, I believe, good and decent people who play by the rules. The majority of them, whose voices are rarely heard above the noise of the corporate media, operate with a sense of justice and fair play. Most of them would not knowingly cheat a neighbor and only a small percentage, actually a fraction of one percent of them, would murder a neighbor. It is their naiveté, their ignorance and trust in authority that gets them into trouble.

Conversely, the government has a murderous history, a long record of criminality, and a track record of lying and deception that any sociopath would envy—especially in its present incarnation under George Bush and Dick Cheney. It has a lot to answer for. When violence is the first resort of a government, the people have no business referring to it as a democratic republic. They must offer resistance to it. They must bring it into line with the values and code of ethics of the citizenry.

Few would argue, no matter what political stripe they wear, that the current government bears no more resemblance to the citizenry than it does to the socio-economic demographics of the population as a whole. Thus the vast majority of us have government without representation. It is government that does not serve the people, but treats them as its servants.

If we are to see improvement, we must stop acting as if we are living on the plantation and take personal responsibility for what the government is doing in our name. This will require organized resistance beginning at the community level and spreading outward. It all begins with the personal choices we make. Ultimately, it will require global solidarity to meet a threat that is also global in extent.


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It is these Truth Seekers whom history will remember as the ones responsible for ridding America of its greatest enemies, those that lie embedded within our shores, inside the cabal of criminality. When the day comes, and it soon will, when 9/11 is exposed for the inside job that it was, America and her people, and by consequence the world entire will smell the clear, pure mountain air of a truth too long hidden, of a sunrise giving birth to a new nation, a restored nation, returned to her People, where truth and justice prevails, where the Power of the People is omnipotent, where the interests of the People prevail, where criminals and murderers sit waiting in the gallows, waiting for the justice of 6,000 dead Americans and 1,000,000 dead Iraqis to be reclaimed.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

yes, a lot of people are beginning to wonder about the relationship between the government and the people.

the current situation is intriguing.

under a Western democratic system, like the UK or US, the Government are only there because of the will of the people, and are there for the purpose of representing and therefore serving the people.

it goes further: what is described as Government money under such a system does not belong to the Government - it is there to be used in trust for the people AND ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE.

Under Fascism the State became a corporation - the only corporation and the people were part of it. Those who did not agree were outside the corporation and therefore an enemy or alien influence.

But what we are faced with in the US or UK today is not Fascism - it is a mutant of Fascism and it goes back (in the US) to Iran-Contra and in Britain to the arms for Iraq scandal, and the many, many associated scandals.

In order to operate in a manner which ignores the law - as Bush and Blair do (it is beyond breaking the law - they ignore it), it also requires massive funding and influence outside the normal channels of finance and influence.

The British Government has a history of gun-running NOT for the arms industry as a section of the economy, but for their own shadow corporation. The CIA and/or other US organizations have done the same, creating massive financial holdings outside the realm of Government finance and accounting.

Take a look at Iraq - 150,000 US soldiers. What is the second largest military force in Iraq ? There are at least 50,000 Contractors - privately hired thugs, heavily armed, answerable to nobody.

Now imagine that THEY 'come home' to the US or the UK.

It is worse than treason. What has been done is a usurping of power to specifically and deliberately use the positions and support of power (and the military) in order to set up a shadow government, with criminally obtained funding and a large private army.

As Lenin said, as Bush said, if you are not with us, you are against us.

All have a limited time to make up their minds because, this Friday (as the Russians considered) or before the end of the month (as the Arabian News in Kuwait reports) the Americans have to be assumed to be intending to attack Iran. And for all those who mutter in the background and pretend that it has nothing to do with them, remember Trotsky's words: you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

At the start of this military adventure in the Middle East, the Pentagon estimated the number of US casualties from a widened Middle East war would be over fifty million. Quite a risk, isn't it ?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Troop Surge is failing..."the death-rate vote" Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Some good news, and a few very troubling developments...

Friday has come and gone, no attack on Iran. That is the good news, for the moment.

Bad news yesterday, the American serviceman death-rate for this first week of April is on a rate as high as November 2004. Civilian deaths are on a par with pre-surge rates, though the killing zones have spread outside of Baghdad. The troop surge has failed so far in stemming violence.

Demonstrations took place yesterday in Baghdad calling for an end to sectarian violence as the news reports Muqtada Al-Sadr calling for unity with Shiias and Sunnis, against the Americans.

Among the many tragedies of the last week, two things hurt me the most: 1) that culturally progressive Iraqi women were being targeted for kidnapping, torture, and mutilation-murder by unknown parties, and 2) the American serviceman death rate seems to be now used as a "vote by death-rate" by opposition forces in Iraq.

And the Pope's comments.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070408/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_easter

"Afghanistan is marked by growing unrest and instability," Benedict said. "In the Middle East, besides some signs of hope in the dialogue between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, nothing positive comes from Iraq, torn apart by continual slaughter as the civil population flees."

Short of America leaving Iraq, there is no such thing as getting better, but the situation is getting worse.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

True, we have survived Good Friday, but America's loony-toons seem to be working overtime.

A Harvard lawyer speaks: well, I'm sorry, Ed, but it appears that we are now enemies. According to Harvard lawyer and head of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff "radicalised Britons could try to mount an assault" on the USA. So if Brits are going to stage the next 9.11, we had better prepare for the risk of an American attack or a British pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US. (Lucky I am in France ...).

And in New York ? Rudy Giuliani is now blaming the Iranians for 9.11. The alleged attackers were Sunni - Iranians are Shia, but what does Rudy know ? Seems Rudy knew about the 9.11 collapses in advance - that's what Rudy knows.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: The Iraqi war is already coming Home: The children/families Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Rich...if I made a new "alleged enemies list" of this Bush government as reported at various times over the past 4 years, it might include Canadians, Frenchmen, Mexicans, Italians, Russians, Venezuelans, even Germans...and why???

The war has already come home...
In the midst of the continuiing tragedies of Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Somalia, Sudan, and the terrible losses in those countries, let me raise the issue already mentioned in the major media groups, that of the long term psychological effects of wars where America played a role.

Certainly let me begin with the immediate emergencies in Iraq where daily mass killings occur, and the terrible toll it must take on Iraqi women and children. The secondary terror of course is the daily threats against these same Iraqi/Afghani innocents, of kidnappings and strong-arming of local gangs and militias and mafia groups that take the place of non-existent police.

The third layer of course is the un-intended terror of these families facing military troops, including American troops who in the course of their assignments, are "searching for the enemy" in Baghdad, and end up kicking down doors and pointing guns at innocent civilians. The long-term psychological damage we are causing must be enormous.

There is also a new major development within the United States, as told to me from a friend of a child psychologist in San Diego. This is the massive upsurge and psychological evaluations she is giving to children of American troops who have suffered multiple troop rotations over to Iraq. These same children and their mothers, who daily worry about their loved ones in harms way, who daily worry about losing their home to the mortgage payment monsters, are increasingly needing interventions and help just to cope with the overwhelming stresses brought on by this war.

The treatment of returning wounded veterans has been an abomination, I believe, but the treatment of the families and "wounded children" of all the veterans is completely un-reported, and should be discussed.


If a million American troops have already rotated into the Middle East theatre of wars, how many families of Americans are now directly involved? Answer: Millions!

Of course, the McCains of the world say we are winning in Iraq, and the situation is improving. No, its getting worse on both sides of the war. Will the war follow the troops back to home? It already is happening, we all know it.

PS...if anyone is listening, I would hope the States allow a special Gold Star, Blue Star license plate designations for family members of Iraqi veterans, and also focus on this growing major problem among veterans childrens/families.

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With all due respect, what will a star on a license plate entitle the bearer to -- greater respect ? Free parking ? Is that a tradition form a previous episode of American hubris -- or valor ?

I'm on your side -- but could we possibly have involved a million volunteer troops in Iraq by now ? I really don't know the numbers. . .but I'm amazed by that one.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Visibility Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

SDR...I think the American government has behaved as if the Veterans are used like nails, use them once, forget about them, as if the families of the veterans don't matter, and don't suffer, and don't lose their homes.

License plates would remind all of us... right or wrong, this family invested in the war something very precious for all of us.

Million troops rotated in and out? I don't have the specifics, but I would have to believe that a million American troops have been involved in this debacle. Hasn't the timetable of the Iraqi duration now exceeded the entire World War II duration? I could be wrong, but not by much if you add up the GI presence in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Afghan, Iraq over four years.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Antisthenes

Not to mention the DU they bring home with them & post trauma stress, military families are beaten and killed by their husbands at an extraordinarily high rate, this is not factoring on girlfriends.
These are complicit war criminals you speak of who carry nuclear contamination. I know a few from the last war their among the 250,000 permanently disabled and they have had so many miscarriages on trying to get pregnant, and so much more, it is not even funny. Have you seen the mutated babies? This culture needs help and the help is not there, all that is there is that corporation you speak of waiting to sell more refills on the ammunition in the perpetual cycle of the military industrial complex to secure privilege in the access to energy before the peaks hit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

I am sure I don't know which is the greater horror: that Dick Cheney is knowingly profitting from the deaths and mutilations in Iraq and Afghanistan, or that he actually believes that the sacarifices being made by others is necessary for the survival of America.

The great pity is that none of these men can admit to a mistake -- and won't, even after leaving the seats of power. For this human failing, others must suffer.

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