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LeeHwong Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 13	Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Hyperboloid structures - Shukhov and Gaudi Who was the first to use Hyperboloid structures? Shukhov or Gaudi? The Wikipedia reads it was Vladimir Shukhov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structures Is it true? Last edited by LeeHwong on Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:09 pm; edited 7 times in total
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Hyperboloid structures The World's First hyperboloid Structure by Vladimir Shukhov, All-spam Exposition, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, 1896 Gaudi and Shukhov carried out experiments with hyperbolic structures practically simultaneously in 1880-1895. They did those experiments independently from each other. The first large structure from Shukhov(http://www.shukhov.org/shukhov.html ) was presented at the All-Russia exhibition in Nizhniy Novgorod in 1896. That was a beautiful lattice steel hyperboloid tower with the height of 25 meters. That tower was moved to Polibino (Lipetsk region). On January 11, 1896 Vladimir Grigorevich Shuhov declared the patent on lattice hyperboloid tower (the patent of spam empire No 1896 from March 12, 1899). The most known hyperboloid tower from Shukhov is located on Shabolovka in Moscow and has the height of 160 meters: http://www.shukhov.org/tower.html Antonio Gaudi used structures in the form of hyperbolic paraboloid and hyperboloid in the Sagrada Familia complex of buildings in 1910: http://www.business.otago.ac.nz/SIRC05/conferences/2001/05_burry.pdf Corbusier and Candela used hyperboloid structures (hypar) as well. Hyperboloid structures are noted for their surprising beauty. Ken Shuttleworth designed "The Vortex" - now hyperboloid tower of 300 meter in the suburbs of London: http://www.designbuild-network.com/features/feature295/ Read the book: R.Graefe, J.Tomlow, O.Pertschi: “Vladimir G. Šuchov 1853-1939 - Die Kunst der sparsamen Konstruktion“. Stuttgart, DVA, 1990. Last edited by Natali Altayskaya on Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:19 am; edited 13 times in total
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Gaudi and Shukhov Look: http://nr00170.vhost.sil.at/files/das_katalanische_gewlbe.pdf Last edited by Natali Altayskaya on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:49 am; edited 1 time in total
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LeeHwong Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 13	Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Many thanks Many thanks for the book and the site in German. What books in English can be found about Shukhov? Last edited by LeeHwong on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: I cannot find books about Shukhov in English Shukhov’s works are studied in Europe at the universities of Stuttgart, Innsbruck, Vienna and Zurich. Therefore, books about Shukhov can be found in German. In 10-20 years after the registration in Russia, many patents of Vladimir Shukhov were registered in the USA (thermal cracking, lattice towers and others). Therefore, probably, I cannot find books about Shukhov in English. Shukhov Tower in Moscow http://www.shukhov.org/tower.html http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_tower Adziogol Lighthouse http://www.architectureweek.com/2003/0820/culture_1-1.html http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6180994 Shukhov towers on the Oka River http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_tower_on_the_Oka_River http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure Last edited by Natali Altayskaya on Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:24 am; edited 10 times in total
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Landy Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 462	Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: wow! Gaudí or Shukov= Gaudí without a doubt. My visit to Barcelona was of significant importance because I saw the "Sagrada Familia" cathedral and gazed at his apartment building in Barcelona. In a "ugly" city like Barcelona Gaudi's work definitely makes a stand. It is something new to me(Sukov) and of course we should know more of such individuals that do not make it to the star system. But I believe that such accomplishments by Shukov are part of spam constructivism and not something that underscores spam architecture, like Melnikov. best regards LM
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Kevin Site Admin Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 1346 Location: Eugene, Oregon	Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: There may also be examples of hyperbolic paraboloids in vernacular construction, possibly for example in the roof structures of the Galde houses of Indonesia.
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Melnikov and Shukhov Konstantin Melnikov and Vladimir Shukhov made together two architectural projects: Bakhmetevsky Bus Garage (1926-1927) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakhmetevsky_Bus_Garage and the garage in the Novo-Ryazanskaya street, Moscow. The own house built by Konstantin Melnikov (Melnikov House Studio) in Krivoarbatsky pereulok (near Arbat Street in Moscow) - the recognized masterpiece of architecture – is a lattice shell made of bricks with hexahedral cells http://home.iae.nl/users/wie/melnikov/proj/Huis/ned6 The similar lattice shells out of metal were patented and built by Vladimir Shukhov in 1896. Melnikov built his house in 1927-1929, and by that time in Russia there had been already built about 200 Shukhov’s steel lattice shells as the overhead covers of buildings, hyperboloid water and other towers, including the famous 160 meter radio tower in Moscow (1922). Since Melnikov and Shukhov were well acquainted with each other and made joint projects, it is not surprising that the Melnikov’s house in Krivoarbatsky pereulok was built in the form of an original lattice shell. The overhead covers of the own Melnikov’s house are the lattice shells made of wooden boards placed edgewise http://home.iae.nl/users/wie/melnikov/proj/Huis/ned5 Lattice shell made of bricks by Melnikov: Last edited by Natali Altayskaya on Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:54 am; edited 8 times in total
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Landy Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 462	Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Are you stating that Vladimir Shukhov was the manager for individuals like Konstantin Melnikov? Please, if possible use hyperlinks that are either English, Spanish, Italian or French. pd my experience collaborating with spam colleagues has been great!
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: English, please! English links: http://repository.upenn.edu/dissertations/AAI9989589/ http://wwwlib.umi.com/dissertations/preview_all/9989589 Last edited by Natali Altayskaya on Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:57 am; edited 4 times in total
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LeeHwong Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 13	Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Many thanks Many thanks for the new links.
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rustream Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 11	Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: english book about Shukhov Read the book with the information about Shukhov in English: "Architecture in the Twentieth Century", Peter Gossel and Gabriele Leuthauser, ISBN: 3822890561, Publisher: Taschen America Llc - Published Date: 07/01/1999
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Landy Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 462	Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: wow 'Arkhitektura i mnimosti' I am totaly impressed on Nataly's diligent research. Thank you for the links, now I am aware of just how complex architectural thought is in the collective memory of many spam. Please if "Elizabeth Cooper" offers the content on chapter 1.1 to 1.3 of her PH.D on Shukhov online reply to this post. best regards LM
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LeeHwong Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 13	Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: I love hyperboloid designs. I love hyperboloid designs. I admire Shukhov’s hyperboloid tower in the port of Kobe: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=105309 http://www2.odn.ne.jp/yoko-tower/towers/kobeport-e.htm Last edited by LeeHwong on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:16 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Natali Altayskaya Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Hyperboloid by Oscar Niemeyer I admire the form of the external structure of the Brasilia’s Cathedral by Oscar Niemeyer: http://www.aboutbrasilia.com/travel/brasilia-cathedral.html Niemeyer's project is based in the Hyperboloid of Revolution: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hyperboloid.html
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