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hiba



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: hello people Reply with quoteFind all posts by hiba

i've been thinking of a rehabilitation and/or juvenile correction centre as a topic for my thesis, but been going back and forth about it i get pretty indecisive when it comes to big issues! thought about it a lot and i am definitely intrigued by all subjects relating to this. got any thoughts on this to share? i know this is pretty generalized as a proposal i'm still looking into it, but if anyone's got any suggestions or useful info about this i'd be really grateful! anything u say would be helpful to me at this point.

thanx in advance and have a good one all!

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emee



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by emee

hi!!! name is , emee... im also currently taking my thesis here in philippines...
about your propect thesis, i thingk its very cool.. and interesting. last year my friend's thesis is a juvenial center... it made the whole sem as interesting to interview ofr ask information about the proposal...
at the end of the semester, she was ased what most interesting she had learned, she qouted " i should considered myself liviong as one of the prisoners... it will more easy to design or plan the buildings and structure if you knew there daily routines and considered there comfortability in the facility, making the good structures as if there are in the outside world",
hope it could help, by the way im studying a retirement center for forigners located in our province... Very Happy
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hiba



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by hiba

hey emee thanx for ur reply it cheered me up! Smile yeah i definitely think in order to think conceptually and design-wise we should put ourselves in their shoes, how they'd react with everything around them and not how they are perceived by the community. it should be interesting because u get to learn a lot about criminology/psychology simultaneously, and there are a lot of controversial issues to address and investigate.
by the way i liked ur retirement centre idea for thesis, it could turn into something really interesting and maybe provocative! Wink

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by gleearch

I have worked on a police station which contained a juvenile detention/ questioning area and an adult holding/ detention center.
You should consider visiting such a facility if you are planning to design one. Make sure you research both older and newer facilities to understand the changes that have been made. Additionally some states have different ideas about juvenile detention.

Remember that some of these places are not very pleasant and can be quite a shock if you have not been around facilities like these. There are much better now and architects are doing their best to ensure these improvements continue. You should also be aware that there are architects out there who do not believe in designing such facilities on moral and ethical grounds.

It's a personal thing. But I think architects can make a difference and work to improve these types of facilities. They are not going to go away.
However I still hold that the key to a better and safer society is through accessible education. Which is why, I prefer to work on schools and educational facilities.

Oh, designing for seniors is a different ball game. You need to take into account several factors. Is this a senior care facility or a day care facility? Do they cater to all types of seniors or those with alzheimers or dementia.
If your facility is for foreigners, what types of standards would they consider suitable for them?

my two cents.

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hiba



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by hiba

hello gerard thanks for ur input. actually i guess i'm more inclined towards the junvenile correction centre, i do believe that architecture can and should create a positive environment for inmates (not sure about the word, is it young offenders?), it's not about isolating them from the rest of the community as people tend to think, part of their rehabilitation involves making them effective members of the community. that's why there should be a lot of interest in the educational facilities included within any sort of correction-rehab centre so why not design spaces that stimulate the senses and make them more willing to learn, it's like a special sort of school no? this does sound very idealistic but for me it's definitely not about bullshitting.. i'm just gonna give it a try!
i haven't visited any sort of prison or centre yet but planning to very soon, already have a long list made, but i'm wondering about what to include in my research should it be restricted only to identical places? since it does address other facilities, psychological and more importantly educational.

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gleearch



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by gleearch

Some things to consider.
When you design your project, as part of your thesis, how much reality do you want or need in it?
There's several options right? Design base on what would be utopian. That is what some may feel an ideal juvenile center should be like. No bars, furnishings that are not bolted down to the ground, sharp edges are ok, lots of privacy.

The funny things is that some juvenile halls are designed very much like adult detention/ corrections facilities. Some juvies being more violent than others. Age factors, history, etc.
Building codes dictate the type of construction too.

Juvy centers should be designed better, with optimism, brighter and cheerful spaces. Maybe to detract a little from the conditions they are in. Emphasis on the corrections and maybe not so much on the detention. To also understand that for the most part, their intention is to correct the juvenile before they become adults. To give them a better chance. Though sometimes this doesn't seem to happen.

But it would be good to also talk to the counselors, and the guards and see their perspective. It also allows you to better understand spaces like sally ports etc. Why locks are on certain doors and not on others. Why holding rooms do not have opaque doors and walls. Why toilets are arranged in a certain layout. The importance of water and pressure. It gives you a more rounded understanding of the human pysche.

Actually it would be interesting when you are done to post your findings.
And how your thesis has evolved.
Good luck. Sounds like an interesting thesis.

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hiba



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by hiba

thanks a lot Gerard u gave me plenty to think about, i'm now even more interested to start working on it.
i will definitely post my findings here, truly hope they'd be worth checking out eventually!

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