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Richard Haut
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/features/altscenario/

(seems to have something to do with your government, Donald)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

Don't be so sure about governments role here RH....they will not be signing up anytime soon with the treaty next month because of this.

I prefer to read the following commentary in the Washington Post editorial about your article, which concluded:

"... Some of the gases involved are already in decline because of other international restrictions; going after others amounts to an attack on air pollution, which the scientists argue should be attractive action in all parts of the world, independent of concerns about warming, because of health benefits of cleaner air.

"That optimistic scenario immediately caused some environmentalists to worry that the report would become a weapon for those who are skeptical about warming ­ who oppose any action. Dr. Hansen himself said it undoubtedly will be used that way, but that would be a misreading of the study. The new report does not challenge either the evidence that surface temperatures are going up or the growing consensus that human activities are contributing to the increase. It continues to cite the need for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions. There is no suggestion, nor should there be, that response to global warming should wait until the science is more certain.

"What it does do is remind us is that climate issues are complex, far from fully understood and open to a variety of approaches. It should serve as a caution to environmentalists so certain of their position that they're willing to advocate radical solutions, no matter what the economic cost. It suggests that the sensible course is to move ahead with a strong dose of realism and flexibility, focusing on approaches that are economically viable, that serve other useful purposes such as cutting dependence on foreign oil or improving public health, and that can help support international consensus for addressing climate change."

There are flaws in most all computer models and until the scientists can prove fully mans effect on warming aspects, you will be forever searching the universalwebhighway for the data.
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Richard Haut
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

rather like arguing about whether or not garbage contributes to risks of ill-health.

how much does it contribute, does it contribute, will it get worse, will it cause epidemics ..... etcetcetc

no, I don't suppose that your government has considered the option of cleaning up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

Interior Secretary Christy Todd Whitman, interviewed today on Terry Gross's "Fresh Air," says that the US government is concerned about greenhouse gas emissions and is spending more than any other nation on research. She says that the President's refusal to join the Kyoto Accord was a statement to his political base that he would "stand strong against the Europeans." Although this action was personally embarrassing, as she had assured some of those nations of our intention to engage on this issue, she says that she understands the political motivation behind it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by SDR

www.truthout.org/docs_05/012805V.shtml
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