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csintexas
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I see California producing a lot of paper but not much that would actually reduce total energy usage.
I have seen some articles claiming 70% reduction of energy efficiency since 1985 but per capita energy usage has only approximately leveled out. Coupled with increasing population this means that there are more electric plants in California than ever (just not as many more as there could have been)
I don't see anything actually in the works that would reduce energy consumption by 60% by 2010 (or any other year for that matter). Is there an actual plan or is this all just proposed?
What is the purpose of paying people to make these proposals? I guess it makes California seem progressive but with it's new bankrupt status I don't see much chance of anything happening other than mass exodus.
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Kevin
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Clear points you make, csintexas, but all together they seem a bit dark... Surely there need to be proposals developed and debated in order to get to the stage where real things are happening.
I'd love to see us farther along as a civilization than we are, every day. Yet rarely do I expect us to evolve faster than a basic sequence like crawl, walk run. Maybe that's a fair mantra for patient change.
In country so well over-supplied with couch potatoes, I'm willing to applaud those who crawl toward walking - even though I'd really like to see us run together!
How can we actually start or impell the process, to get our large-scale economic systems moving in the so-needed different direction? |
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csintexas
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No doubt you are correct, crawl, walk, run. At the same time I think we need to point out our deficiencies.
I'm not sure if this really counts as crawling. Perhaps we are sitting still and the world is moving around us?
There are plenty of practical solutions but because the terms 'green' and 'sustainable' has been completely abused and with the notion that future technology will simply make all current problems go away even the green minded people are left sitting on the couch waiting for any clear direction.
There is too much emphasis on carbon emissions. I think most people realize that it is not feasible to reduce emissions in the current world. We currently use about 6 times more energy than China per capita (more if you consider that a lot of their power consumption goes toward creating products that we consume)
We need to look at energy and all consumption as a matter of economic health. Not only do we need to optimize our buildings but also everything else -education, transportation and particularly health care.
I don't know exactly how much time is left to act but it isn't much before the deficit becomes a huge problem, the baby boomers are fully retired and oil really is in short supply.
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