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D-arch.
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: How to draw the section through a hip roof!!! |
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Pls fellow architects,
I need help on how to draw the section through a hip roof and a bungalow....I am very concerned in having a full description of all the sectioned components ( fully labelled ) of the hip roof and bungalow...Thank you very much... |
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Married To The Job
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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About a building section through a hip roof:
It may be a bit hard explaining verbally, but the first thing to determine is if your section cuts in front or behind the main ridge of the roof.
Am I to assume that you are doing this by hand or are constructing this in 2D in cadd rather than just slicing a section through an existing 3D design?
When you say "...and the bungalow..." do you mean an attached porch? Or do you mean the interior of the building? I'm a bit confused by your terminology.
Are you doing a full section through the entire building? What scale of drawing are you expected to produce?
When I was first learning these type of drawings, the hardest thing for me was understanding how a ridge beam would be depicted as it is sliced through on an angle. One I figured that out, the rest worked out. The other thing that threw me was the height of the section at the roof perpendicular to the main top ridge -- choosing to slice a section at a substantial distance from the ridge makes the roof structure look very squat and strange, although it is accurate.
In working drawings, the full building sections do not serve quite the same purpose as wall sections or section details.
That's why I was curious as to the aim of the drawing you're doing -- the scale and purpose will give you a guideline as to how much detail you can expect to show and how much will have to be outlined by notes. |
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D-arch.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: How to draw the section through a hip roof!!! |
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Married To the Job,
Thanks I really appreciate your reply. Am presently designing a 3 bedroom bungalow which is (20m x 10m) and I decided to roof the building with a hip roof. The problem am facing presently is getting the section of my deign. Already, I have all elevations but am not to sure of how the section of the hip roof should look like especially on the 20m part.
Also I know when you slice through a building there are several components to be represented in the design like: the thickness of the hardcore, earth, ground level and so on. Am a bit confused on the dimensions of this components...
Thanks.. |
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nanrehvasconez
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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When faced with complicated structures such as roofs, the best policy is to produce multiple sections which will reflect the changes in elevations or for that matter the transition between one roof system to another.
In our office we do many split level projects, usually in hillside lots, we do cross sections north-south and east-west to determine the nuances in the framing systems. |
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teamjdc
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't you start your post "fellow architects"?
Needless to say, you need the help of a professional.
You might also want to refrain from using "architect" to describe yourself until you're actually licensed. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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As to the sizes of components -- it would be to your benefit to do some surfing online for building components sizes. Or, you could borrow a copy of something like Architectural Graphic Standards which has hundreds of pages of building components. I can assume that your design is a schematic, and not anything farther along, since you do not know component sizes. By looking at product materials, or a generic source like AGS, you'd have tables to look at to get an approximate size for dimensions of structural components, finishes, etc., etc.
When all else fails, go find something similar and measure! |
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nanrehvasconez
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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teamjdc said "You might also want to refrain from using "architect" to describe yourself until you're actually licensed"
I license does not make an architect, it may legaly allow a ninconpoop to practice architecture.
An architect is a well educated rounded designer, draftsman, cad operator, and usually an excellent salesman. The license is another fee for the government to collect. |
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Married To The Job
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| I wasn't going to wade into nanrehvasconez's comment, but I find I cannot resist. Whether we use the legal definition of Architect (as it applies to most and/or all of those who practice in the US, at least), or we use this more nebulous definition, which puts an architect on a plane with a renaissance man, can we agree that either way, an Architect would know what a building section looks like? |
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nanrehvasconez
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Married To The Job " Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:
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I wasn't going to wade into nanrehvasconez's comment, but I find I cannot resist. Whether we use the legal definition of Architect (as it applies to most and/or all of those who practice in the US, at least), or we use this more nebulous definition, which puts an architect on a plane with a renaissance man, can we agree that either way, an Architect would know what a building section looks like? "
Yes, an architect should know what a building section llooks like, but the architect picture (drawing) which is worth 10000 words is prepared to benefit the builder, his estimator, and the carpenter who is going to frame the building.
RE: sizes of roof members there is "THE WOOD TRUSS HANDBOOK" put out by Gang-Nail Systems, Inc.
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Well designed, structured and user-friendly software drives the successful modern timber truss engineering systems provider. However, Gang-Nail Systems’ recognises that for its customers to maintain a competitive edge in an increasingly competitive truss fabrication market, Gang-Nail Systems must also offer on-time delivery a responsive timber engineering and design service; and a prompt and efficient mechanical engineering and breakdown service.
Recent developments include the introduction of a new generation of Windows based software and new products such as the Ecojoist® Steel Webbed floor joist system. |
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nanrehvasconez
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, an architect should know what a building section llooks like, but the architect's picture (drawing) which is worth 10000 words is prepared to benefit the builder, his estimator, and the carpenter who is going to frame the building.
I must add the PLAN CHECKER, who will approve the drawings and issue the building permit, he/she would appreciate seeing through the building via cross sections.
Clarity in the working drawings is a must |
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