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mnemesh
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: PC8 save as dxf issues |
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What happened to the options for saving as a dxf? Now you only get to choose the version? I can live without most of them but I found the visible layers only feature very useful. I create files for CNC routing and use layers for various things like differentiating tooling and keeping an editable version of text in a drawing. But taking away the visible layers only option has caused me to have to create multiple versions of drawings whereas before I could just hide a layer save as dxf and not have to manage multiple source files.
I'm also running into problems with scale and layering, but it isn't consistent. Currently I'm working on a 1:1 drawing 37"x37" and have saved a file in 2000-2002 dxf format. When I opened it up in my CAM program and the drawing is 7100% larger. I took the same drawing into PC7 saved it as 2000 and it worked fine in the CAM program. In PC8 all layers were listed but all drawing elements were placed on layer 0. In PC7 it worked as expected.
I'm going to have to go back to PC7 as this and other feature problems have pretty much rendered PC8 useless for me.
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randyshanks
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: visible layers only |
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Am I understanding this correct?
One will not be able to save only visible layers to dwg in PC8 or is this only in saving as dxf.
This would be a big negative for me as I save sheets (visible layers only) as .dwg files many times a week to send to others on AutoCad.
I do not want to have to create a new drawing to do this.
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mnemesh
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I just went back and checked as I hadn't tried that yet, but the answer is yes. The only choice in the options is the dwg version.
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huc
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Location: ::caddpower.com:: (Aurora, CO)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: Re: visible layers only |
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| randyshanks wrote: | One will not be able to save only visible layers to dwg in PC8 or is this only in saving as dxf.
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Yes, also for dwg . It's worth reviewing this list at caddpower.com. Check under general, there are others related to the translator there too.
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Jeff H
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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FWIW, I agree with Randy. There are "working" layers on my drawings I do not ordinarily wish to export to others. This will be a significant problem for me.
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KEITHRENTON
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Likewise I frequently use the visible layers option when exporting specific parts of a drawing. For example when working with sketchup I'll set up a temporary layer in my working powercadd file which I use for taking simplified plans and elevations for export in either dwg or dxf for importing into directly into SU. If this is no longer available in PC8 Then I'll need to set up a second file and copy and paste between drawings rather than between layers.
Seems a bit long round for a short cut! |
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CJH
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| I've found the new dwg translator to be vastly improved over the PC7 version for importing drawings (I no longer need to run Acadd with a PC to set up dwg files for translation and to see viewports, etc), but not being able to save out dwg's with visible layers only is an issue as when clients ask for dwg's they want individual sheets of floor plans, elevations, etc. However, the work-around seems easy: As a PC8 file is compatible with PC7, open the file in PC7 and save out the dwg from there. |
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pbacot
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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So you're saying you've found no useful improvement in the export translation to dwg in Version 8. In fact, it's worse?
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M-Rick
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Me too i use this feature a lot !
It is a step backward if it has been removed ! |
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Derek
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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We too need and use the ability to export only certain layers to DXF. It is a critical part of our workflow. Whether or not this is done through visible layers or some other mechanism probably isn't important but the feature would be sorely missed. It may mean we will not update to PC8.
I don't suppose the DXF/DWG export is aware of the Print status of layers in the Layers window? That might work for us if it was.
Hopefully this feature can be returned to the application pronto if it has indeed been dropped.
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GaryV
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| This does not sound more "elegant" (I think that is the adjective used on ES's website) than before. Saving visible layers only is a must-have! I am disappointed hearing of the step backwards. |
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KEITHRENTON
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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The work around suggested (have both PC7 and PC8 open at the same time with two duplicate copies of the files) seems madness, if not impossible if you're burdened with international copies which require dongle protection.
It was so simple and quick to just copy and paste that part of the drawing you wanted to translate to dxf/dwg onto a separate layer and simply save as dxf/dwg with visible layer only selected. In fact I cannot think of single time when I did otherwise.
As I said previously it looks like with PC8 the only work around will be copy and pasting between separate drawing files.
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CJH
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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It seems there is a lot more going on.
I saved a file in PC8 as dwg, then opened it in Autocadd. It opened in Autocadd as a 'working Layout' tab (viewport) with the layers I had visible in PC8 as on in Autocadd, so the drawing when opened looked pretty much as it did in PC8. In Autocadd there is also a 'Model' tab with all layers on, and other tabs which match my sheet layouts in PC8, although I'm not sure if the layers on/off is correct for each sheet. I'm not all that knowledgeable about Autocadd, but it seems PC8 is trying to create an Autocadd file which contains all the information in the original PC8 file with tabs (viewports) to match the PC8 sheets and the opening window to match the layer settup of the PC8 file when the dwg file was created. I can see I'm going to need to spend some time seeing just how it all works by saving various PC8 file settups and opening them in Autocadd. |
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Alfred Scott
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I would like to offer the observation that with any new version, no matter how hard we work at this end, there always seem to be problems. So that's the reason to get some copies of PowerCADD out there to find out about these things, while we're all waiting for the printers.
I would not get too concerned about any of this. It's clear from the discussions here what the problems are. Keep finding problems. Keep reporting them. But don't lose heart.
The only hold-up on WildTools is the printed manual. Once WT9 is out, then it will be my turn in the barrel. I've fixed every problem I know of and can fix, but there will certainly be some problems that will need work.
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dwm
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I reported the missing active layer export to DWG during beta testing.
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