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michael507
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 Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: Please help me choose a M.arch program |
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hey everyone,
i have been accepted to the Master of architecture program at the following schools and have to accept one in next weeks.
U of Oregon(Portland), IIT, Virginia tech, arizona state u, U of wisconsin Milwaukee
I have been debating between Virginia tech and U of Oregon(Portland) and I must make a decision. Does anyone have any advice about either or all of these schools? So which school is best and why? It is greatly appreciated!
Michael
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Madimel
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Hi Michael,
I've attended Arizona State University and IIT (MArch). I have a couple of questions for you. What program are you graduating from? Is it a professional or a 4-year degree? Why are you pursuing your graduate degree? |
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michael507
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Madimel wrote: | Hi Michael,
I've attended Arizona State University and IIT (MArch). I have a couple of questions for you. What program are you graduating from? Is it a professional or a 4-year degree? Why are you pursuing your graduate degree? |
thnx Madimel~~
I am an international student with a 5 years B.arch degree and want to attend to a 2-year M.arch degree in the us. Maybe i will seek a phd or find a job after graduation. Could you tell me which school has a good reputation or much stronger arch. program across the country? I hope The school I select will be conductive to my future life. |
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Madimel
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Hi Michael,
Why the rush to get back into school? After I graduated from ASU, I went and worked for 1.5 years before getting my graduate degree. I did that because I wanted a break from academia. I encourage you to consider that, I feel that it will keep your mind fresh and give you a better perspective. As far as the quality of the architectural programs in those schools that you mentioned, of course I am partial to my alma mater. They all have their pros and cons, and you will get what you put into it. IIT will forever hold a very special place for me. If possible, I really suggest you visit the campus and the students. ASU is a diploma mill, so you essentially buy your degree there. But that may have changed, it's been a long time since I graduated. |
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michael507
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it's great to hear your candid comment 
In fact, many people suggest me having work experience before entering a graduate school. Now, in my last year in the undergraduate program i am engaged in doing some pratical works, but it seems having nothing to do with the design method or technology. THey are just common resident houses with reinforced concrete structure. The most unbearable thing is we have to work day and night and hurry through the work, and we usually dont have enough time to think how we make the design, let alone the deliberation of seeking the best plan.
After 5 years' study, i still dont have the idea of how to design in a real work. sometimes i am even at mt wits end and cannt solve the problem only churning out large amout of CAD copies.
I hope to hone my skills and learn something really helpful.
If possible, i prefer to seek a PHD degree rather than look for a job. |
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Madimel
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Michael,
I understand your frustration, it's something that every architectural candidate must face in their career. Part of your training in this career will be to learn how to understand building assemblies. This is where you learn to bring cohesion to your projects. Plus, through time, it allows you to be able to pass your Architectural Exams to become licensed. In my opinion, there are no short cuts, and this is your time to starting honing your work habit and learn to work with different personalities. Without this knowledge, you can potentially look foolish in front of clients and builders further down the road. Since you have your professional degree, an MArch really does not translate to a higher salary. Use this time wisely, at the end of the day, you will look back and be amazed at how much you learn, whether it be learning what to do or NOT to do. I do know that ASU and IIT are offering PhD programs, but I do not know it's real world application. So you have to ask yourself, in the big picture, what do you want to be? |
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michael507
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your advice and i will consider it seriously!
Why dose no people apply for PHD? |
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teamjdc
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| There is only one accredited Doctor of Architecture degree in the U.S.; it's at the University of Hawaii. |
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Madimel
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Michael,
What is your expectation of a PhD in Architecture? Do you plan to enter the practical arena or are you planning to pursue a career in academia? Whatever you decide, research your options carefully, for example, the graduate program in IIT has no set calender curriculum for your final thesis presentation in the MArch program. While I was there, some graduate students have been there for over five years trying to finish their degree, one student was approaching ten years. |
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michael507
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sorry, i am confused...
Cann't I apply for a phd degree after finishing 2 years master degree in college. So what i should to if i am going to pursue a a career in academia? I really know little about the US educaition sys. in arch. Would you mind making it clearer for me? |
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teamjdc
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Sure, you can apply for a PhD in anything you want after having a master degree.
If you get an accredited BArch or MArch, the doctorate won't need to be NAAB accredited.
Architecture school in the US is pretty simple. There are accredited degrees and non-accredited degrees. Most states require an accredited degree for licensure.
Accredited degrees range from a 5-yr BArch to the DArch in Hawaii.
As I said above, once you get one accredited degree, the others can be whatever you want. If you get an accredited MArch for example, and want to teach at the university level, you can get a PhEd.
For more information, go to naab.org |
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michael507
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Madimel wrote: |
for example, the graduate program in IIT has no set calender curriculum for your final thesis presentation in the MArch program. While I was there, some graduate students have been there for over five years trying to finish their degree, one student was approaching ten years. |
So what happened? DO i have to get additional credits or complete dissertations as a prerequisite to apply for the phd program? or anything else? |
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Madimel
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michael507
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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thank you Madimel !
But i am afraid we are not talking the some topic above.
Actually i am not going to attend a phd program for the purpose of license, on the contrary, seeking a phd degree means more qualification and advantage in finding a job in universities(in my mind). I can totally complete the requirement of license during the study in master program.
It is possible that there are not so many people involved in PHD of arch in the US, while i kind of have interest in it.
Is it necessary to do that? I haven't make up my mind. |
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michael507
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| also thanks teamjdc |
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