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Alfred Scott
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My printer arrived yesterday and it looks just fine to me. As with any inkjet, the quality of the paper that you use makes a huge difference, but using the 11x17 paper we had for our laser printer, it produces a very crisp image. It's very difficult to see a difference with our 600 dpi Okidata printer. About the only difference I can see is a slight difference in the line sizes, with the Okidata printer making a thinner line, but it's not enough difference to care about.
I've got some 12 x 19 paper on order from GrayTex.
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Rob C
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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You mean 13 x 19? I've never dealt with GrayTex. Have you ordered from them much?
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strother
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Location: Maidens, Va
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| Rob C wrote: | | strother wrote: | | We have had the Okidata 8800dn for about a week. ... |
What's it use for a printer driver? The standard laser printer driver, or it's own driver software? |
Rob - I have no idea what the driver is. I had to use a CD to install the printer - but a spotlight search does not show any driver by the name of Okidata.
I do know I am upset because I simply can not make it print envelops properly. I went by Alfred's yesterday and we were easily able to print No 10 envelops out of the MP Tray - best to learn how with envelops using addresses in the Apple Address Book. (It was their first envelop - they were stunned!)
But when I come to my wife's computer - no matter whether I pick a landscape or portrait orientation, the envelop, which must process thru the printer short side first - exits with the printing done as if the printer expected long side first.
The print preview on the job clearly rotates the envelop to show that it is being processed two different ways - short side or long side, first - but the finished printed envelop is the same - and both WRONG! 
The only difference with Alfred's computer is that he is on Leopard with the letter size Okidata printer and we are still on the 10.4.11. I also tried it with my Mac with 10.4.11 which has a Brother Printer and the envelops came out as expected on the first try.
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Rob C
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I still use Mac Envelope for envelopes and labels, but it's a Classic application. Can't use that too much longer. I can't believe there's still nothing in OSX as useful as that application is.
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Derek
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| strother wrote: | | The print preview on the job clearly rotates the envelop to show that it is being processed two different ways - short side or long side, first - but the finished printed envelop is the same - and both WRONG! |
I see the Oki C8800(PS) driver has a "Rotate Page" option where other drivers don't.
In the Print dialog box (not page set-up), pull down the menu list to "Printer Features" to find it. I don't have an Oki printer to test what this does but it might be worth giving it a try.
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strother
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| Derek wrote: | | strother wrote: | | The print preview on the job clearly rotates the envelop to show that it is being processed two different ways - short side or long side, first - but the finished printed envelop is the same - and both WRONG! |
I see the Oki C8800(PS) driver has a "Rotate Page" option where other drivers don't.
In the Print dialog box (not page set-up), pull down the menu list to "Printer Features" to find it. I don't have an Oki printer to test what this does but it might be worth giving it a try.
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I'll try that - plus this is amazing - look at this intelligent response from support at okidata.com. I should be printing envelops by Monday!
Thank you for your recent inquiry. First I would like you to disable media check in the driver and on the printer. This should eliminate if you are getting a mismatch or paper size error and pull the paper whether it is letter or legal etc. When you do get the error powering the printer off and then back on again should clear the error.
To disable on the printer:
Press the + key until you see Print Menu and then hit Enter, then press the + key until you see Media Check and then hit Enter. Then hit the + key and change it to Disable and then hit Enter and then hit the back key.
Depending on what operating system you are running it varies on where the Media check is within the driver.
The best way to change the paper size is through the application when you are sending the job. This way it only changes for that particular document and you do not need to make a change on the printer itself.
You would want to select the paper size from your document, File>Print>then Properties and select the correct paper size.
If you are still having an issue it would be best to call Customer Support at 1-800-654-3282 for more interactive troubleshooting. Agents are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Thank you for using my.okidata.com. If we can do anything else for you in the future, please don't hesitate to ask!
Your Personal Solutions Specialist
Lisa
===================== Original Message ===================
We use Microsoft Word - we select Tools/Envelops, select the addresses, and
ask the C8800DN printer to print the envelop out of the MP Tray. Looking
at Print Preview in Word, the paper correctly shows as a long narrow
envelop, with the addresses correctly placed on the paper.
We load the envelop, short side toward the printer, The printer message
says we do not have the correct paper loaded, (even though it is asking for
No 10 envelops which are in the tray) we are required to hit the On-Line
button, and the printer processes the envelop, but it is printed
incorrectly. The envelop is printed as if you should have loaded the
envelop long side toward the printer, so the delivery address appears
sideways on the first half of the envelop that enters the printer.
Said another way, if you use letter size paper, long side toward the
printer, then the envelop printing appears landscape on the first half of
the paper that went into the printer.
Can you suggest a step that we might be doing incorrectly. |
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Ed J
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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Location: Riverside, CA.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Well anyways, I got the printer and it works great. Thanks for the recommendation.
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strother
Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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Location: Maidens, Va
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Back in February I was wrestling with printing #10 envelops on my 11 x 17 printer. Here is what I have learned - with some help from Alfred. I took my Okidata C8800dn (an 11x17 printer) to Alfred's office where he has a very similar Okidata C6100dn (a letter size printer) and we hooked them both up on the network to the same Apple Computer using the latest Tiger 10.5.2 operating system.
On the Apple print screens there is a Orientation button - which indicates turn zero degrees, or turn 90 degrees.
On the preview screen on the computer monitor, the image turns as expected at zero or 90 degrees. On both printers, the output turns 180 degrees so it come out at zero or 180 degrees - our first surprise.
So to print a #10 envelop on the 6100, it wants you to insert the envelop short side first, and the envelop is properly printed either right side up, or upside down. Either is OK, depending on how you insert the envelop. 
Doing the same thing - printing a #10 envelop on the 8800, with the short side first, both envelops are unacceptable. But if you insert the envelop long side first, then the envelop prints either correctly, or upside down. One of those two choice is acceptable, if you can get the printer to suck in the #10 envelop - long side first. 
I had tried putting envelops in long side first - flap end first - and my envelop jammed everytime as the flap got sucked around something. Alfred's envelops (maybe they had a more pointed flap) did not jam, nor do my envelops jam any more now when inserted long side first.
My idea of the theory - the letter size printer is simply not wide enough to process #10 envelops long side first - so they force you to put them in short side first. The 11 x 17 printer is wide enough, so they force you to do them long side first - though the directions clearly say use short side first. In fact I bought the new printer in part because the HP 4MV had the same problem. Now I know that if we had just used the envelops long side first it would have been fine.
Unrelated hint on Envelops
| Rob C wrote: | | I still use Mac Envelope for envelopes and labels, but it's a Classic application. Can't use that too much longer. I can't believe there's still nothing in OSX as useful as that application is. |
The local store suggested I use a widget for quick envelops - http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/easyenvelopes/ from Ambrosia Software - the same people who make Snap Z Pro. It works great if you like widgets - with the same "side first" provisio - depending on your printer.
No bids Yet There have been no Bids on the old HP 4MV - it is going to the dump soon!
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patrickm
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: santa barbara, ca
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| strother wrote: | snip...
The local store suggested I use a widget for quick envelops - http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/easyenvelopes/ from Ambrosia Software - the same people who make Snap Z Pro. It works great if you like widgets - with the same "side first" provisio - depending on your printer.
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Strother |
I've been using EasyEnvelopes since it was first introduced (back when postage was $.37) and I find it quite handy. It is the only widget that I regularly use. I downloaded an update last week that now has the "forever" stamp -- I guess they won't have to update it again!  |
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Rob C
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| strother wrote: |
Unrelated hint on Envelops
| Rob C wrote: | | I still use Mac Envelope for envelopes and labels, but it's a Classic application. Can't use that too much longer. I can't believe there's still nothing in OSX as useful as that application is. |
The local store suggested I use a widget for quick envelops - http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/easyenvelopes/ from Ambrosia Software - the same people who make Snap Z Pro. It works great if you like widgets - with the same "side first" provisio - depending on your printer.
No bids Yet There have been no Bids on the old HP 4MV - it is going to the dump soon!
Strother |
I'll try it. Looks like it doesn't do label from what I've seen yet.
My 4MV is still hanging in there ... barely.
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Jeff H
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Rob,
My old 4MV does envelopes and labels (full sheets) well. Both in Word. (An older version.) I did muddle through some confusion about orientation, but I think that comes with doing envelopes.
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Rob C
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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MacEnvelope does labels well. It allow you to take a partially used sheet of labels and start printing with the first unused label by clicking on a graphic representation of the page. You and click repeat label N number of times (like printing return address labels). I've tried envelopes with Word and it's just painfully unproductive by comparison. Printing labels in PowerCADD (or Illustrator for that matter) has been the next best thing.
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