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Obliquegeek
Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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Location: England
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 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: To continue or not? |
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Hi, I'm just looking for a bit of helpful advice.
I'm 26yrs old and living in England. I've been studying Architecture for the last few years.
The thing is that I failed my 2nd year and had to repeat it. Then I managed to fail my third year as well. I'm not going to make too many excuses about why, just that the there were many factors involved.
I've been resigned to the fact that I was all over and trying to get on with outer things, but I'm having trouble accepting that.
Is it worth trying again? I would love to become a architect eventually, it's something I've wanted for a long time. Is it really worth continuing though? To start with my marks would be capped to a basic pass and then there's the fact that I would have taken 5yrs to get a 3yr degree (and still have another 4yrs left to do).
So I'll be 27 and only just managed a basic pass on my part 1 qulifacation. Is this really what emplouers want to see? If I could get by on my work alone I woulnd't be concerened but I understand the amount of 21yrs olds coming out with perfect degrees.
Any advice/views at all...please!
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Hectictecture
Joined: 07 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:15 am Post subject: |
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u should discuss this with the matured ones, but anyway my advice is that if u feel comfortable at something else.. then may be u should do that.
i know it's hard to accept this after spending 4 yrs. but.... be decisive.
GOD BLESS!!!! |
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VWall
Joined: 02 Aug 2004
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Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: |
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I know how you feel. I tried to put myself through college (chemical engineering major) and was forced to admit that I no longer had the physical stamina to do it. Anything that distracts your physical or mental energies can block your progress.
Since you have started several years late and also fallen two years behind, you almost certainly should switch to a less demanding field. |
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Karina
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it all depends on how much you love the field. If you see yourself in another major that you feel you could be more successful in, then go for it. But if architecture is your true passion, then the truth is you ARE going to be thirty, no matter what. So you can be thirty with a BARCH or drop out and be thirty without one. |
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nipesh
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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Location: India
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Look Obliquegeek,
Just relax yourself and with a cool mind think yourself........do you really want to be an architect? Do you really have that love and passion for architecture?.....Think openmindedly.....see that you may feel to like it, because you have studied it for some years, but listen to the inner voice....what it says......
If you feel that you need something else then go for that something...
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If you feel that you still need to be an Architect then no one can stop you. Gather all your courage and fight back, its a war dear and you have to fight to prove your existance and your being. It doesn't matter if you loose some of the battles in between, but, your ultimate aim should be to win the war and get through.
Its some situations that landed you here, but you can always improve and kick off those situations and rise......
You can definetly do it...
Go and conquer the world Obliquegeek....
God Bless You..
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ali
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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Location: bahrain
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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You never told us where you study?
do you think its the college your in???
is it maybe too tough for you, or you simply dont feel relaxed there. perhaps if you could move to another college. you might feel more comfortable with the new system, place and new people might add to your enthusiasm, and your advantage is your determination, i know people who were lucky enough not having to repeat two years, but having to repeat one or two subjects they chose to drop out.
go for it, but if i were you i wouldn't stay in the same place, you need new motivation and a new environment to start all over 
best of luck!!! 
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denny
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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obliqueqeek, i could literally feel what you have been feeling. in the end, it's actually come back to the question of ur heart and how determined you are to continue architecture.
i am studying archi in melbourne university in third year, at the moment everything has been overwhelming for me. it's also not uncommon to see student drop outs i this course, fifty percent of people i know already dropped out, or either discontinuing their study after third year. those who endure the hardship gonna make it in the end.
i think all the previous replies are very thoughtful.
i just want to let you know that you are not alone.
ps. there is a 35 yrs old first year student in my school, he did it because he's dissatisfied with the opportunities his Science degree is offering, there's also a 45 yrs old lady who's very enthusiastic.
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Obliquegeek
Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies, it's good to hear some other peoples opinions.
I know I need to be decisive but it's hard when such a lot depends on it.
I don't want to start blaming my problems on the university but...
it's never been that good. It's unorganised and severly lacking in any facilities. During two of the my years there new tutors were brought in half way through the year. Most of our technical lectures ended suddenly when the lecturer left, never to be replaced. Things such as computer tuition, facilities and space are almost none existant and this year we lost our workshop because the guy who supervises it left,m again, never to be replaced. Oh, on top of that our two main tutors only come in 11am - 5pm on a thursday and one of them also come in the same time on a monday - how's that for support!
I've looked into moving somewhere else but I've been told I'll need to join in the second year again...
I know it's not the point of doing this but, I'm also surrounded by my friend who came to university from art college when I did and they've now been working for a few years and are begining to enjoy the nicer things in life. While I'm still a poor student...
During my spare time, the little that I did have over the last few years, I've been doing bits of graphic work and some website stuff. Mainly for friends. I've been considering moving over to this recently due to my less than satisfactory progress throught the course. The field in general seems much more accessable than architecture. The problem is that it has only ever been a hobby, architecture was my thing. The graphics seems like a poor second to me. (I'm not demoting the importance of grahic design it's just how I feel)
Still undecided...
I'll stop yabbering now, and thank again for the replies
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hannahm
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:06 am Post subject: |
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From another architecture student who has changed majors a few times, who if they had stayed in commercial art, would have been finished and working for a few years now, and, yes, starting to enjoy some of the finer things in life...and will also be old by most standards when "finished" with this degree:
They say architects live a long time, so being old by the standards of most who graduate with other degrees isn't really as bad as it seems. As far as students in the same major go, everyone learns at a different pace. It's what you've learned from it that counts. Your situation sounds horrible as far as facilities and support are concerned. Starting at second year again sounds formidable, but I would say it was worth it for peace of mind. Just think, that wouldn't be something you had to worry about anymore, you could focus on learning! Funny how an architecture school taught by architects (I hope) who stress organization and planning could be so disorganized and ill conceived!
There will always be pressure...it won't always be just for grades.
Architecture is very demanding and requires a little more training than most careers. This is the challenge that makes it appealing. To have to deal with so many different areas of planning is a thrilling feeling. The idea that you can make people's lives a little easier and more pleasant without them even realizing how is even more thrilling to me. Art is also appealing in that way. Everyone enjoys comfortable and beautiful things, and if you can provide those things, you have talent. I think you can apply the thinking process encouraged for architects in any profession. And if that is the case, then any profession can be as interesting as architecture if you find the right approach. Other professions just don't have as obvious or large results. 
There are many others who are getting old as we speak in the architecture schools, I know at least 6 in my school. Don't feel that it's a negative thing. You can polish your technique while in school, and your higher level of maturity is very helpful in the learning process.
Best of luck with your pursuits, whatever your decision! |
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mimih23
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: Sorry in advance for the length.......but make a choice |
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My friend.....
Let me tell you a LIL' story about moi......
Around the age of fifteen or sixteen I attended this class called American Studies...a select group of individuals from our high school...where we studies literature and history in relation to the community, etc.... anyway, in that class I was exposed to the local architecture and was hooked!!! I knew then I wanted to be an architect. So as time passed...my family moves again.....headed to my third high school....architecture is still on the brain. Was not allowed to take CAD for the school was on a track system and I was a second semester junior...sucks right. Chose to stay in band instead of physics...because I was so committed to music. But of course I can take all those things in college. Graduation comes...and I'm excited because I've been accepted to Auburn University....I even go to Orientation and help my group win the spirit award at the skit competition.....exhilarating! Go home, psyched...ready for the world......then my parents call me into the room.....
"Dear we've decided that you can't go to Auburn this semester...blah blah..." I don't remember all because I went blank...and being the passive extremely meek and obedient daughter I was...I didn't question nor did I make a sound......
So, I'm sent to a closer school for in-state tuition of course...with no arch program!!!! I know nothing of the place....has nothing to do with my goals...etc. etc. So, I'm stuck.
Semester goes by...meet some people...decide I want to stay...I'll find something to do....I even had the opportunity to transfer....but I stayed.
To make the rest of the story short....I stayed....grew miserable...met people who were never really my true friends...experienced many things which have caused me to question my belief...changed my major 5 times and now I've graduated with a BA in Psychology.
KEY WORD......CHOICE!!! We as humans make choices...and we must take responsibility for our choices.
Take a look....I CHOSE to stay at the other school......I CHOSE to continue on after being hurt and losing my way... I'VE CHOSEN to stick with my first love because frankly....I HAVE TO. IT'S A DESIRE THAT HAS NOT LEFT ME. And I thank God (this is rare nowadays considering so be grateful for the experience) for the chance to continue on.....and you know looking back...my experiences I do believe have prepared me for what's to come. YOU CANNOT LIVE WITH REGRET AND YOU MUST CHOSE!!!! Sure,my dad especially thinks I'm nuts....it's taken me a long time to get this one degree.....BUT I CAN'T STOP!
NO ONE CAN STOP ME. SO MY FRIEND IF IT'S TRULY YOUR DESIRE....CONTINUE ON.....NO ONE CAN STOP YOU BUT YOU......
YOU SHOULD NOT CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK NOR BE HELD BY OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS.....BE FREE. THIS IS YOUR LIFE...CHOSE...and when you chose....take responsibility for your decision. |
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mimih23
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject: Um... |
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| Oh yeah I forgot to mention....I'm 24..which means that I'll be 27 when I graduate with my master's in Architecture....28 or 29 even 30 when I complete my internships or whatever and take my liscensure. My Psych Advisor told me.....they'll respect you...no one wants a young architect.....too much at stake......so think about it. |
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rizzdizzle
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| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| you go -......... |
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mimih23
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ngochungarch
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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only word:
Continuing ! |
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modelerouge
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi, I'm new here, but this topic caught my eye. I am struggling with this issue right now. I am a third year undergrad at a top university and I feel discouraged about my choice to be an architecture major fairly often. The other students around me seem to have everything together and they always seem to understand everything. I feel behind a lot--but so far I've managed to get decent grades in my studio courses so I must be doing something acceptable, at least. I just started my new studio last week and we are having to learn software that I am totally unfamiliar with in a matter of three days. I am so stressed out about this. I think I will try to stick it out, but I just feel like my particular interests don't jive well with my university (i.e., I'd be better suited to a less strenuous program somewhere else). I don't know, I'm rambling at this point. I just wish I had more confidence in my abilities. |
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