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csintexas
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Ok here is some small changes mostly which add symmetry to the fireplace and screen porch door. The clients seem to be leaning to your idea on the study mx2 because they like the extra wall and cabinet space. It looks like it may be practical to remove the column also.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would be nice to have some art glass at the front door, the two entry windows, the four new windows in the office and the three windows in the master bath. Also the two gable windows in the great room. Maybe the two french doors that go out to the porch.
I would like to design them as part of the house. Each group will have it's own design. Each design would be as uncomplicated as possible so that they don't require tremendous amounts of time to build.
I am also thinking this fireplace design would make the master bedroom more functional.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I also put some more thought into the space between the living and bedroom areas. This is a special place for memories of a daughter taken away too soon. There is a solo-tube for light -these are also used in the master bath, closet and bath 2 vanity area. Also I need to add one more art glass to the half bath.
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Your section is a great beginning because it reveals a lot of issues that need to be addressed that could lead to major revision of your plans and elevations. The biggest problem that jumps right off the page is the teenie-intsy-wincy window of clerestory just above the office...you'll never be able to flash below the window sill and have any d.l.o. for the actual glazing. The other issue is you show a line where the office "roof" would be...I still think you're avoiding the issue by not drawing a section thru the office...but this "line/roof" is huge and will collect dust, hair, dirt, maybe a birds nest or two...
And I'm really wondering about the roof structure, overall. Is it my iagination or does the little roof over the entrance portico slope differently than the upper roof above the clerestory? And it has very awkward conditions where this part of the roof intersects the ridge of the gabled porte cochere...you need to revisit this area because it definitely doesn;t work the way your envision it.
Do you have any 3D software that you're good with? Can you draw some quick sketchy models and view the interior spaces? I like how the floor plan is evolving...it simply "feels" more balanced. I only would criticize the entrance...even though it evovled from another layout the two doors, to the kitchen and office, being right at the front door is very awkward. There needs to be a vestibule free of other circulation routes. It should be a transition space and perhaps be pulled back or move the two doors...
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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The structural issues really need to be discussed with the engineer before they go to far so I think it is a bit premature. I have seen some architect designed houses with very little curb under the windows and until that and other details are worked out these sections only show an approximation.
I have never done detailed sections until I get to the point that I am ready to start the details.
All roofs are 4/12, I am pretty sure the portico roof will work as I show it.
What does d.l.o. stand for?
The "line/roof" is the clearstory or what? I have a similar but taller upper section on my house and the birds don't seem to like it.
Yeah, the entry was better before. I don't see how pulling that wall out would help much but I will give it a try. You don't see many average size plans that don't work better with more sq. ft. added.  I have already been thinking of moving the clearstory towards the front as much as possible maybe 12" or so.
Softplan is not good at sections and interior renders
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think its looking good Chris. Its got a little craftsman going on there, and I think you should run with it. Gable brackets etc...
I like the look of the render as well. Was all this done in Softplan. Pretty impressive. |
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks leglace,
The people over at PPB2 think it is so bad that I am going to have to completely start over. So I'm going to do it again in a more modern way before proceeding with this one.
Good idea on the brackets, I thought about doing exposed rafters and I suppose I could use the good'ole rising cloud motif.
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Umm...you changed it on me! 
Now you show the office wall going right up to the underside of the roof/ceiling of the clerestory (you keep spelling it wrong dude). Before you drew a horizontal line cutting it down to about 8'. In this new section (great section) you now show the clerestory window and the upper glass as we previously discussed. You shoul draw all four elevations of the "great room" now.
BTW, the issue of drawing sections before engineer input is exactly part of the issue we've been arguing about between drafting vs architecture. Engineers don't tell designers what to do...it's the other way around. Engineers just need to design the structural details and make it work to your design. On that note, you don't have to draw so much detail in your sections when designing. You just need to "block out" the spaces and work out the problems and find better solutions. Leave the detailing until last and usually you draw individual enlarged details of specific areas, instead of detailing the heck out of the entire section. For example, on the stud walls, you don;t have to show the studs at 16" 0.c. anddshim the doors, etc etc, on the floor plan...see what I mean?
oh yeah, d.l.o. stands for "daylight opening". It's the clear unobstructed opening in a window or door frame for the glazing...in other words, the part of the glass that you can see through and excludes all the trim, framing, blocking, shimming, etc.
And I still think that part of the clearestory window is a bit on the small side but I noticed it does look a lot better than in your first section HOWEVER, keep in mind this smaller exterior window only occurs for a very small portion of the office because the clerestory ends mid-way and the adjacent perpendicular wall begins...so in essence your not going to get much light from the exterior at all from the clerestory here...plus, how does the office wall intersect the entrance vestibule? I think you need a long section right thru the kitchen/entrance vestibule/office to see what's happening up near the clerestory. Honestly Chris, I really like the way it has evolved ona whole but I still think the fact that the office has a only a portion of clerestory overhead that this creates more problems than adding anything positive. You could solve this by aligning the clerestory with the office wall...either the interior wall or the exterior wall, makes little difference in that regard. But it will make your life (and the contractors) a lot better, I promise!  Otherwise, keep up the good work.
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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naw, it's just miss communication and me not going to enough detail to make these drawings very clear. Oh yeah I forgot "clerestory" my spell checker let me down. I don't use that word much.
The first section was through the kitchen of the first plan with the other entry arrangement where I was thinking of stopping the kitchen wall at 9'
I think it works out better if you consult with the engineer early. They often have good ideas and a more practical view. They can point out issues that I might miss and so save time in having to redo things. Generally I think the team approach is best instead of me assuming I know better than anyone else.
Yes just two little windows facing northwest. No direct sun light probably. Even in the summer the trees will block most direct light by the time the sun gets low enough. Yes that clerestory is causing a lot of problems it would be a lot easier if I took it out.
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well, before you toss it out, what about making a tension "ring" (no ridge...more like a box frame) higher up on the roof and create a real clerestory...like you find in a church or something. Or add transom windows along the perimeter of the exterior wall and you get the same feel. Or, as I keep suggesting, keep it but align the clerestory with some walls below, such as the kitchen and office and then you can enclose them (create pass wide thru openings/bar for kitchen), and you should be able to keep it with a decent window opening.
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It looks like we are getting closer moving forward on this project:
http://www.inspiredhabitat.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=25
My idea is to use this forum to discuss and document all aspects of designing, building and living in this modern Texas house. I use the word modern not to describe it's style but rather an attitude which asks -How can we create the best possible house today?
What are the characteristics of the perfect house?
Here are some of my ideas:
1. affordable
2. energy efficient
3. environmentally friendly
4. sense of place
5. durable
6. loved by the owner
I would really like this to become a collaboration with any one who can contribute knowledge which would make this house the best it can be. Particularly those people in our local community. I'm also considering the possibility of using video to interview the people involved.
Even though most of the information will be at my site I will be happy to respond to anyones thoughts here or there.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: The Implications of the term "Architectural Concept& |
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It is apparent, from these discussions, that each individual seems to have his own view or interpretation of what is a "concept". This is typical in the architectural practice.
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Sorry to hijack your thread Chris, but I wanted to comment on usarenders point...
I find the problem with students (and some architects) misunderstanding "concept" is the fact that it is difficult to grasp if it has never been experienced. It's akin to explaining what sex is like to a virgin.  Hence, why many schools spend vast amounts of energy to teach methodology, rather than simply allowing the young designers to begin with random shapes, spaces, etc...
Even to choose a concept has been the most elusive idea to many who try to grasp it. They find comfort in laying out walls and openings and basing it on human functions. This is of course, engineering, as one famous architect expressed. So, my advice to many has been to keep trying and keep seeking to work with a concept by doing your research about the nature of the project, while still formulating the concept. And then it is critical to understand that concepts evolve as the information starts to narrow in on what begins to "feel" to be the best ideas. Essentially as one professor a long time ago once told (don't remember who either unfortunately)...it is the information that drives the design; you must design the concept which then informs your formal decisions.
And this is a continuous process that lasts the lifetime of any project.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm suddenly experiencing a lot of deja vu like I've read these posts before or something. Could ya'll find another thread for these other subjects please.
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I wanted to get a builder in the loop early in the project so yesterday I collected all the (144) local builders e-mail address's and sent out an invitation to look at the project and respond if interested. It will be interesting to see what the response is. Hopefully I won't be flooded with calls today.
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