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svenglezz-ASMEIL



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by svenglezz-ASMEIL

Just keep in mind......there are "other" consultants involved in the design.
And ensuring your drawings are compatible with eveyone else.

Partly the reason why I came up with ASMEIL.

I put all the drawings "arch, struct, mech, elec, inter, landscape," plus some projects have computer networks etc. into 1 drawing (and sometime 2 drawings for more complex projects, one for high level and one for low level).

With ASMEIL you can create a set of drawings with ALL the drawings integrated together to ensure all disciplines are co-ordinated...plus if you get an updated drawing(s), just replace and you get updated ASMEIL drawings.

This is also a great task for "junior" and/or "co-op" personel with senior supervision and will ensure your projects are co-ordinated properly.

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Sven

I have info on my web site and offer free the files you need to get started,
(drawing list, pen setting etc.) just send me an email for this package.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Antisthenes

interoperability extremely important, i agree.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by magneto_ms

Maya is my favourite.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by bullsnbears1

Hope you guys don't mind this post from a nooby, but here goes:

I am going back to school. I have 2 licenses for AutoCad Revit Architecture Suite 2009.

It includes Revit Architecture 2009, AutoCAD 2009, and AutoCAD Architecture 2009.

I'm looking for someone who would like to get started with Revit, AutoCAD or AutoCAD Architecture (ADT) but who doesn't want to shell out the whole ball of wax to get started.

I'm open to ideas.

Back on topic, Revit has been one of the best decisions I have ever made software wise. I struggled with lesser programs for years. It just wasn't worth it. The AutoCAD exports really work well - I have a lot of positive feedback from the architects and engineers among others.

If it weren't for the local construction economy I'd be sitting here designing away with my Revit software - if you can't tell I'm a big fan!
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rockstar7881



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by rockstar7881

I've heard the softplan is better than any other architecture softwares. They say it's easy to learn, easy to use, and powerful. They say that you can draw a floor plan fast using softplan.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by csintexas

Yes that is true. I have not seen anyone design Modern Architecture with it though so I don't know how well it would do there. It is pretty adaptable so I guess it would work. Also it is more geared toward residential than commercial.
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svenglezz-ASMEIL



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by svenglezz-ASMEIL

One item that is very important....

Co-ordination! How do ANY of these programs incorp. this?

I do provide a service called ASMEIL....in short putting ALL the drawings into one, (arch, struct, mech, elec, inter, landscape, etc.). Then this allows to see if the drawings/design is co-ordinated (and 9 out of 10 are NOT).

Not to mention once all the disciplines are integrated (automaticlly) for future changes with simple "drag-and-drop" capabilities.

Once you have the ASMEIL drawings finally co-ordinated with the other disciplines the project can proceed with "interference" drawings then to "sleeving" drawings at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention when you get to As-Builts, with true reflection of what was built, all disciplines in 1 set of plans (just the savings in printing costs). And the best part you can do this yourself and can start at any stage of a projects/building life. Also keep in mind this is great work for interns/students etc.

One other important point in particular is the Rivit for mech/elec. almost every single demonstration HAS MISTAKES! so be very carefull in selecting programs that also design.

It's very important to have co-ordinated designs esp. once constrcution begins, otherwise you leave the option for contractors to charge extras. Some projects I never get a call because all the mech/elec. is 100% integrated and co-ordinated (I like to think they are rewarding me for
a job well done). So avoid un-corordinated reflected ceiling plans and such or till they come out with a special fixture (my fav.) a light/diffuser/sprinkler head/speaker all in one Smile.

Sven

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RSCarcht



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by RSCarcht

The era of CAD (and pseudo-BIM software like Architectural Desktop) is drawing to a close and the era of Building Information Modeling (BIM) is upon us. Our office ran ArchiCAD and Revit side by side so we could compare the differences. While both BIM programs have positives and negatives, we have selected Revit for its ease of use, and its powerful rendering engines. The fact that it has the giant AutoDesk behind it was also a factor as we looked to the future. While it is expensive ($750/year per seat), if you are using it 1500 hours per year that is only $0.50 /hour. Would saving $0.10 or $0.20 per hour really make a difference?

While AutoCAD will be around for a while, the push towards Revit is on and 2D drawing may eventually go the way of the wooly mammoth….

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nanrehvasconez



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by nanrehvasconez

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While AutoCAD will be around for a while, the push towards Revit is on and 2D drawing may eventually go the way of the wooly mammoth….

Could you explain how 2D drawings will become obsolete? The pencil and sketching pads are older than CAD, still a very usefull tool that has not been abandon yet.

For fast studies, space planning, consept ideas, the sketch pad is faster than any computer.

CAD systems are the best thing since sliced bread for repetitious work, , multiple story buildings, guestrooms in hotels, modular applications, importing structural details, etc.

Once you design and perfect one item, you could repeat forever and custmize at will in every layer.
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davidaneff



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by davidaneff

I use autocad and for years I used to complain about how unintelligent it is and would wish that my boss would shell out money for a BIM program. But now after 8 years of using Autocad and after being disappointed with how BIM seems to fall short of its promise (sections and elevations that basically need to be redrawn in order to look presentable) I find myself less and less motivated to make the switch. Autocad is far from perfect but I'm used to it and it works for me.

I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way.
Or if anyone was reluctant to switch to BIM but was pleasantly surprised
Or if anyone made the switch but then went back to plain old autocad.

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Antisthenes



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Antisthenes

It really depends on the project and the operators proficiency.
If you get prototypical plans you will probably not use bim
if you are required to use bim by gsa you will
contractors will often use their own bim programs and make their own model that is more useful to their purposes for estimating and construction, fully detailed connections

because of predatory monopolization always seek alternatives.

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