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Donald



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:35 pm    Post subject: IRAQI Elections on time! Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

Thanks for all your support and the refreshing time out! WOW..I really miss DCF's fireside chats....

Anyway, you won't hear this from the mainstream media, but in 14 of the 18 Iraqi provinces things are stable and they're ready to have elections today. Right now. The insurgents are active in the other four ... doing everything that they can possibly do to prevent the people of Iraq from having any voice whatsoever in who shall lead them and in what direction they shall go.

Thanks KM for letting me have my voice back!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

Sure, Donald, sure - and don't forget Allawi's statement that "no civilians were killed in Fallujah".

hey, Donald - that's democracy. Kill their kids so they don't vote the wrong way.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

The media coverage and RH's claims of the offensive in Fallujah has been quite interesting. A few outlets have reported that the military has taken Fallujah, but most are only reporting the negative aspects. (Not enough this or that, city not fully secured, etc.) But make no mistake, the swift, certain and overwhelming victory of the troops in Iraq was stunning.

Insurgents, most of them from Syria and other nations, will now pop up in another Iraqi city and give it another shot. Their numbers will be less and their determination weakened ... but there will be other fights and many more dead insurgents.

What's the purpose? Prevent the elections. Freedom is poison to Islamic thugs. Any nationwide election in Iraq will be seen as a devastating defeat for the Islamic jihadists. If they can prevent or delay those elections it will be seen as a victory for the terrorists.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

The government of Iraq has set elections for January 30th, 2005...right on schedule. These would be the first free elections since the fall of Saddam Hussein. The Iraqi government says voting will go forward even in the most violent areas of the Sunni triangle, including Fallujah and Mosul.

Already, the naysayers are out in force. It can't be done, they say, because Iraq is too violent a place. The government of Iraq has set elections for January 30th, 2005...right on schedule. These would be the first free elections since the fall of Saddam Hussein. The Iraqi government says voting will go forward even in the most violent areas of the Sunni triangle, including Fallujah and Mosul.

Already, the naysayers are out in force. It can't be done, they say, because Iraq is too violent a place. But these same people have been doubting our effort in Iraq all along.

Thats par for the course though... It seems what they always fail to mention is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Iraq's country is at peace and stable. It's only a few cities and provinces where the insurgents are.

Excuse me, but isn't this the very same thing that they were saying about Afghanistan just a few months ago Question
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

Sure they'll be on time - but they won't be honest.

And it will be one almighty mess because it is scheduled for the middle of the Haj.

But they have to be held then, don't they Donald - the attack on Iran is only a month or so later.

Having slaughtered anything that moved in Fallujah - and ensured that children bled to death in the streets by stopping medical care - of course the world looks to America as bringing civilisation and freedom.

(Word of advice: don't publish the election result before people actually vote - you know, like the people sent to help in New York on 9.10.01. Wouldn't want them to know that Osama was still on the US payroll, like Allawi.)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

Consider this: remember when people were saying we would lose 10,000 men on the first day of the invasion? We're almost 2 years out, and still under 2,000 killed. Still tragic, but considering the predictions, not too shabby. Remember those that said we could never transfer sovereignty? We did it anyway....a couple days early. Elections in Afghanistan? They said it couldn't be done...and we did it.

And what about Fallujah? We were told it would be impossible to take that city. Thousands of Marines would die....the carnage would be unbearable. Yet, the U.S. Marines rolled that one up in a couple of days....and even sent 1,200 Islamic terrorists to their permanent desert sand naps (wait...1,201...there was that faker in the mosque.) But was he really dead when the Marine shot him? Well, he is now. Good riddance.

The war in Iraq has been a smashing success...the facts just don't support any argument otherwise
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

"Well, he is now. Good riddance." You keep endorsing murder, don't you ?

I suggest that you wait before crowing about Fallujah.

Strange that considering what an amazing success you consider yourselves, yet more nations are pulling out.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Architorture

there isn't going to be an iranian invasion anytime soon... the number of strike aircraft in the region right now is far too small to indicate any kind of attack on iran... unless the entire aerial campaign took place using stealth bombers launch from the states...

right now there is no indication of the build up necessary for an attack on iran...obviously, there are many ground troops there, but there is no way they would start an attack on iran without a significant aerial campaign first...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

Back to the election thread, as now that an actual date for elections in Iraq has been set, look for more violence. There are a lot of people in very powerful positions in the Middle East who do not under any circumstances want to see the people of Iraq chose their own leaders. The Mullahs of Iran come to mind, as does the Saudi Royal Family and the leaders of Syria. Freedom has this nasty little habit of being contagious.

Can you imagine how the Iranian weird-beards would react to their Iranian subjects watching in awe as the citizens of Iraq decide who will govern them?

So .. how do you prevent this from happening? As RH has hinted...the use of Violence. Send in the - dumb slur -. Kill people. Threaten voters. Create enough havoc and maybe you can prevent the elections from even taking place.

The real sad thing here is that there are huge numbers of Europeans (and Americans) who are rooting for the insurgents. They don't want to see those elections take place either. Its no wonder that there may be some countries pulling out...Elections in Iraq and a freely elected Iraqi government would be a huge victory for liberalism's most hated man, George W. Bush.

If you haven't considered this before, now may be the time. Many would rather see the people of Iraq live under a despotic, totalitarian regime than to see Bush prevail in his goal to bring democratic processes to the Middle East. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

not just the "weird-beards" that are giving you trouble, is it Donald ?

The US legal profession has had enough - they don't like what they describe as "war criminals" giving the sort of misrepresentation of the law that Bush accepts as legal.

So the death of the American brand has reached the American professions - and congratulations to the US legal profession for fighting back.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

I hadn't considered this before, but now must be the time. RH would rather see the people of Iraq living under a despotic, totalitarian regime than to see Bush prevail in his goal to bring democratic processes to the Middle East.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

not exactly a successful "hearts and minds" campaign, is it Donald ? (Unless you believe that the physical extraction of the heart and the pulping of the brain are part of the process).

but I have to agree that the Iraqis are indeed suffering under a despotic leader, Allawi.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

The nay-sayers are now predicting elections will not be held in Iraq next month and that any effort to bring a democratically elected government to Iraq will fail. Remember, please, that those very same people were saying elections would never happen in Afghanistan. Impossible, the experts said - after all, this was Afghanistan....the mighty Soviet Union couldn't even invade and control the country after a decade!

Yet, here we are three years after the United States liberated the men and women of Afghanistan from the bloodthirsty, vicious Islamic terror of the Taliban, and today the freely elected president of Afghanistan was sworn in. We did it. The United States took a country whose people it was said could not live in freedom. They didn't want to determine their own lives for themselves. Muslims can only live under dictators, right? Wrong.

Hamid Karzai had this to say at his inauguration speech: "Today whatever we have achieved -- the peace ... the reconstruction ... the fact that Afghanistan is again a respected member of the international community -- is because of the help that the United States of America gave us. Without that help, Afghanistan would be in the hands of terrorists, destroyed, poverty stricken and without it's children going to school or getting an education."

It took three years in Afghanistan....elections are next month in Iraq. Freedom and liberty work everywhere they're allowed to flourish. All Americans should be proud of what has happened in Afghanistan, and what will happen in Iraq.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

The Iraqi elections are scheduled for this coming Sunday, and Al-Qaeda honcho and avowed Islamic terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi doesn't like all of this democracy talk coming out of Washington lately. Apparently he stopped cutting off people's heads with goat knives long enough to say a few words to the media. But in doing so he finally admitted why he is in Iraq killing Americans.

"We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology," said the hate-monger. That's right....democracy is the wrong ideology. So what is the right ideology? The Islamic terrorists hate the United States and hate freedom because the only form of government that is acceptable to them is a Taliban-style Islamic theocracy, where Islam is the state religion, women are oppressed and beaten, showers are forbidden and nobody is allowed to vote.

That's why these terrorists hate America and call us 'The Great Satan.' It has nothing to do with foreign policy and everything to do with our freedom and our liberty, which they can't stand. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Kevin

Yeah, I'm sure that's the whole story. A world of hurt condensed to a glib, nearly meaningless one-liner.

Rolling Eyes

President Bush does it as lowest-common-denominator brainwashing in mad service of the cause of power and wealth for his billionaire backers.

But why do you buy such thin stuff, Donald, apparently whole-cloth, and why do you try so hard to push nonsense on the rest of us?
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