the loss of a fundamental right in NYC

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Architorture
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Architorture

the private property aspect is certainly the most important element... the people who own it obviously have bills to pay on it and i doubt they would be interested in just donating prime realestate... bc it would definitely have to be donated to public hands...

since as stated before rights can easily be controlled on private property
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by francojean23

america has to take a step away from the bottom dollar when it comes to architecture, and realize that good urban planning is the responsibility of all in the urban environment...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by francojean23

there shouldn't be a feud between architects, proponents of good design, and developers, interested solely in the cheapest and most profitable design...there should be an effort on both sides...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Architorture

but is a big open space in the middle of downtown manhattan responsible...especially since you have battery city park and such right there too
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by francojean23

you're mistaking a well designed open space...ie some dutch urban spaces...with something like the city hall plaza in boston...a wasteland...

open space does not mean barren by any means...if it's designed well...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Architorture

thats a good point, being from boston...that is a bit of a waste land
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by francojean23

yeah, it's unbearable...it's like a windy dessert that people tolerate to walk from the north end/quincy market area to park street...

and with la tourette thrown right in the middle...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Architecture starts at home and schools Reply with quoteFind all posts by jeanneleez

A long time ago, when I was working for a non-profit in Massachusetts, I built a set of curricula called "The Built Environment" that introduces and maintains architecture, both as theory and practice. It started in K and worked all the way up to 12. It was funded and put into a number of pilot schools, but it never finished.

I still think it is important to have children become more aware of the space they're in, understand form and function, and the bigger picture of city planning, etc. After all, we spend most our lives inside boxes...why aren't our children learning and appreciating good spaces? The entire series of the arts, both fine and commercial, combine language, mathematics, science, and so many other disciplines that it seems ludicrous not to be promoting it in our schools instead of NCLB.

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by francojean23

i completely agree...but i would be cautious of the statement that humans spend their entire lives in boxes...

have we learned nothing from our great modernists...

i agree with you about space...but don't specify boxes...on that note i put spatial design far above mass design...which is where most architects tend to fall these days...

comes to my theory are spatial design versus the greats including Richardson...

nothing against Richardson...it worked at the time...but we are not at that time anymore...

thoughts?
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