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Kent
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Location: Birmingham, AL
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 Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: PowerCADD 8 Printing issues |
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We have experienced a printing issue with PowerCadd 8. A large file (30 meg) with a large placed image would not print from PowerCadd 8, but would print from PowerCadd 7 without any problems.
We only have 1 copy of PowerCadd 8 (we only have 1 Intel Mac). Our 3 other cadd stations are PowerCadd 7. The user of the PowerCadd 8 computer has not updated since the 8.0.7 update. I checked the list of changes in the updates and only found one printing issue and it had to do with printing where it printed as if print selection was selected.
The version 8 machine is a 24" iMac (white) with 2.13GHz with 2 gig ram.
PCadd 8.0.7 Wildtools 9.0.2 OSX10.4.11.
Has anybody else experienced any similar issues? |
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John Cruet
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I wish you were a bit more specific.
What are you trying to print to? What printer? Are you reducing the image? Are you printing to a PDF then trying to print the PDf image? Is your setup through a network? If so, what is the nature of your network setup.
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G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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Kent
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| John Cruet wrote: | I wish you were a bit more specific.
What are you trying to print to? What printer? Are you reducing the image? Are you printing to a PDF then trying to print the PDf image? Is your setup through a network? If so, what is the nature of your network setup. |
We are printing to a Xerox 7300 (384 ram installed with 512 max) color laser 12 x 18 size prints. The print is a 50% reduction from a 24 x 36 sheet size. It was a direct print from PowerCADD over a ethernet network with 10/100 switches. 6 users total on network - no other users printing at the time. |
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John Cruet
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:01 am Post subject: |
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In my experience, attempting to print a heavy document over an Ethernet network through a print server to a Postscript printer means that the printer itself should have lots of memory. It appears that your printer should be able to handle regular documents, but documents that are the size you mention could tax the memory in the printer and cause either the printer to process very slowly, or stall.
A possible solution is to try printing from driver software that allows the print file to be processed in the computer itself.
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G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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How Goes It
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| John Cruet wrote: | | but documents that are the size you mention could tax the memory in the printer and cause either the printer to process very slowly, or stall. |
John,
Interesting how ver. 7 works and 8 doesn't.
I'd be curious to know if others have had printing problems with 8, where they had no such problems with 7.
Steve |
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John Cruet
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| How Goes It wrote: | | John Cruet wrote: | | but documents that are the size you mention could tax the memory in the printer and cause either the printer to process very slowly, or stall. |
John,
Interesting how ver. 7 works and 8 doesn't.
I'd be curious to know if others have had printing problems with 8, where they had no such problems with 7.
Steve |
Truth be told, I first experienced this problem since PowerCadd came into being. When I had a PostScript networking setup at a colleague's office, it seemed to take forever for the printer to start up if I wanted to print, say, a 30 meg document from PowerCadd. At the time, I attributed this to lack of memory in the printer, so i bumped the memory, and it helped some documents but did not help the heaviest. I tried to print aerial photos on 24 x 36 on my printer that were 30 megs or so and I waited for about a half hour before the printer started. Sometimes the printer would not print at all.
It was at that time I decided to forgo the PostScript solution and try a software solution that processed the print file in the computer rather than sent it to the plotter. That seemed to solve the problem.
I have not experienced this problem with my current setup- see my sig for a description of that. And I run PowerCadd 8.
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John Cruet
G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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Peter Severin Carlsen
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: |
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With OS-X has post script become irrelevant? I had found that post script provided vastly superior printing to laserwriters and our plotter with a post script board.
I don't understand what Apple has been up to with their graphic language, but has it made looking for post script printers a non issue? I had thought of pdf files as postscript in a universal wrapper. If there is a new universal printing language solution, is it better?
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Alfred Scott
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Peter,
Apple has developed its own version of Postscript and it's known as Quartz. It uses the same commands (moveto, lineto, stroke, fill, etc) and it produces the same result. There is a difference in that Postscript is an interpreted programming language that sits in a printer and composes the page in the printers memory, while Quartz is not an interpreted language at all, but rather standard programming. The imaging is all done on the computer and/or graphics card, and then the image is sent to the printer.
The practical result is that you really don't need to even think about whether a printer is Postscript or not. You're better off, I think, with a printer that works with the Mac OS.
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John Cruet
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| Alfred Scott wrote: | Peter,
The practical result is that you really don't need to even think about whether a printer is Postscript or not. You're better off, I think, with a printer that works with the Mac OS.
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....such as the Canon printer mentioned in my sig. 
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John Cruet
G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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Rob C
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to remember the same problem going from PC 6 to 7 with my (at the time) HP650C/PS (a post script printer). I sometimes had to save back to version 6 to print a file.
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raleighross
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Kent wrote: | | We are printing to a Xerox 7300 (384 ram installed with 512 max) color laser 12 x 18 size prints. The print is a 50% reduction from a 24 x 36 sheet size. It was a direct print from PowerCADD over a ethernet network with 10/100 switches. 6 users total on network - no other users printing at the time. |
I'm betting the 50% is chocking the printer. Try these 2 things. Print a PDF at 100% then at 50%. Then see if the PDFs will print. First at 50%, second at 100%.
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paulprd
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Always worth taking PC out of the equation and saving a PDF via the print opton. Then open using Preview or Acrobat. Preview is much quicker. Then print from Preview or Acro. If you have the same problem then its an OS set up problem. If its goes away then its pointing to an 8 problem. If its an OS problem maybe ask the OEM if they have a new driver for the mac.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Paul |
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