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MalinW
Joined: 13 Feb 2009
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 Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: Scandinavian way of becoming an architect? |
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I'm 18 and currently living in Stockholm, Sweden.
My biggest ambition is to become an architect. Honest.
This spring I'm graduating from school and will start to pursue this "dream".
It's just one issue. My grades won't make me get in to the big swedish arch universities. (You'll need like perfect grades).
I know there's two other ways to get in. (But I'm always getting told that I shouldn't rely on those either)
1. "Högskoleprovet"
2. "Arkitektprovet"
My plan is to get in to a folkhögskola or some private school where I can study design and art - so that I'll become much more confident when it comes to the artistical part.
So far, this is what I know.
My question now is are there any more options that I don't know of?
Or are there any schools in Norway or Denmark where a Swede like me can get in?
I would be really interested to study in other countries as well. |
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martin.hedin
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Hello Malin,
Im swedish too, but i will reply to your message in english, maybe someone else finds my advices interesting.
My intention wasnt to study architecture but im now in second year in Universidad de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain.
I dont have high enough grades to get in to a swedish school, have 14,7. Your best option, I think is to study in another country. This for three reasons.
1) You will get experience and knowledge of another culture.
2) You will learn another language at professional level.
3) If you study within the European Union you are entiteled to work immediatly within entire europe.
Now, which are you choices?
I started in Budapest, Hungary. I have very good experiences from my stay there. The education is very traditioinal initially but later on you will benefit from that hungary is the native country of ArchiCAD and the use is very extensive there. The tuition is about 3.500-4.000 € a year, CSN gives you a scholarship and loan totally of about 7.500 €, or even more if the tuition is higher. The school is international and the teaching in english.
I didnt however stay for the second year. I went to spain and studied spanish for a year. It was enough to be able to study in the university.
The tution in a language school in spain can be in a public language school just 600€, i however studied in Centro de Idiomas de Universidad de Leon, tuition 1.700 €.
Its is very easy to get in to any school in spain. The grade system is 0-10, you just divide your swedish grade in two. My 14.7 was translated into 7.4 .
The entries in spain are something like this.
Madrid 9.0
Barcelona 7.0
Other schools 5.0-6.0
It would be difficult for you to get in to madrid but barcelona is the very best place to study. I study in Las Palmas because i live with my - here, and it would be to costly for me to study in barcelona, since im not taking any more loans from CSN.
My advice:
Look in to the procedures to study in France and Italy, it is also possible. If you would be interested to study in Spain you have to options:
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a) Study spanish and catalan in Barcelona, the languade schools are a little bit more costly in Barcelona, but there are also public schools, but they dont usually have webpages in english so they are harder to find.
b) Get your swedish grades translated and converted to spanish grades through UNED.
c) Apply for the three schools in Cataluña. Barcelona, De Valles (in Barcelona) or the third one I dont remeber the name.
If you study in Barcelona you need to learn spanish and catalan, which can be more demanding, but Barcelona is clearly one of the best places in the world to study architecture.
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a) Study spanish somewhere in castilla y leon. For example Universidad de León. The teachers there are wonderful and you will learn alot and you will drink ALOT of wine.
b) Fix your grades through UNED
c) Apply to any of the other schools in spain, for example Alcalá in Madrid (a sattelite city of madrid, where they dont demand as high grades as in madrid), Valladolid or why not in Cordoba or Sevilla, wonderful places. Or if you get tired of the heat you can study in northern spain, in A Coruña or Bilbao, a city big as Stockholm.
To translate your grades into the spanish system you just translate your swedish copy, send it to UNED and they send you back a spanish UNED grade, which you can apply to all the schools in spain. You will have no problems to find a school and spain is really a nice country with a terrific atmosphere and culture.
Look into:
http://centrodeidiomas.unileon.es/
http://portal.uned.es/portal/page?_pageid=93,932663&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
http://www.upc.es/
http://www.uah.es/
If you dont want to study in Spain, you can also choose between France or Italy which are really good countried to study.
Another choice is also Neatherlands, maybe the best country for architecture in europe, i think DELFT has programs in english but the tuition is about 7.000 €. Otherwise you can learn dutch. If you learn french you can also study in Belguim. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend germany either, it would be terrific to study in Berlin.
If spain sounds interresting i can help you if you have any cuestions, but if you settle with a country and go there to study the language then you get everything storted out while you are there, for the next year.
My email is martin@tmdcrew.zzn.com if you have any cuestions.
I cant recommend you to come to Las Palmas, this place is to small for architecture studies, there is a big lack of cultural heritage, the library is good though. I live here quietly with my dog and i will go to Barcelona as soon as I finish the education.
Now get on the internet and start looking for you options!
Martin |
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martin.hedin
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Oh, i forgot, you can look at:
http://www.tanok.bme.hu/admission/current0910.html
if you want to get started this fall in an english programme in hungary.
And the spanish language school doesnt seem to have their page in english, but you just email them and they will respond in english.
Take my advice, DO NOT waste your time in folkhögskola. You have to study abroad anyway in fourth year in KTH, so go abroad now right away. That way you can start your education right away, and if you dont like being abroad you can always change back home to sweden, they accept you after the first year, and then you can apply every semester if you dont get in that particular semester.
Good Luck!
Martin
martin@tmdcrew.zzn.com |
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MalinW
Joined: 13 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Thank you! I hope you understand how grateful I am. This is alot more than I expected.
It's really difficult to get a grip about all of the european universities - especially when you want to know all about every single one to make a somewhat fair comparison.
I'm very interested in Germany though. What I know, many german designers and architects appeals to me (if you can put it like that). It's an interesting country.
Still, I'll be open to all options there are. At least as many I can handle.
About folkhögskola. I'm okey with wasting a year or two if it improves my artistical skills or me personally (I might seem naive). I really don't want to rush into anything. But at the same time, I don't want to waste alot of time and money on something that wont give anything.
It's interesting to hear another point-of-view of it. |
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martin.hedin
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Well, you do as you like. I learned alot in Hungary though. The university is not perfect and there some arguments both in favour and not in favor to study there. I think though that the basic education they give you, the first two years is really special, its really traditional and you will learn ALOT of descriptive geometry and fine arts that you cant study anywhere else because they simply dont teach it anymore. (fine arts, yes, in Venice for example). Anyhow, you will always have time to learn more, its doesnt have to be before the education. Le Corbusier studied for another six years after his degree before he ever build anything.
I augmented my artistic skills in hungary and im very glad that i did study there the two years, but im also glad that i changed university, but sometimes i want to go back.
Europe with the European Union is very flexible now, since just a few years. Im sure its as easy to use your swedish grades there as in spain, its should be european standard by now. You shoudnt have any problems.
About wasting time. As soon as I started abroad, I understood that I can go anywhere. If you go abroad, you might feel the same and switch universities until you find the one you like. This might take additional time, because you cant always use your credits to skip a whole year, and you have to do a semester or to again.
Let my now how it goes, here on the forum or email: martin@tmdcrew.zzn.com
Martin |
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Juan Carlos
Joined: 12 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: Study architecture in Spain |
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Hej Malin!
I was browsing this forum and found your post and Martin's comments.
Studying in another EU state is indeed a great experience as Martin is explaining. I am Spanish and studied my entire degree in Sweden, at The Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm.
If you plan to study in Spain, I would recommend you take the Swedish university entry examination (Högskoleprovet). Following the application of the Lisbon Convention, if you have passed the Swedish Högskoleprovet, you can also access any university in Spain withouth having to pass the equivalent Spanish examination, called Selectividad.
You can learn more about how to apply for studies in Spain at this web site: http://www.studyineurope.eu/study-in-spain
Also, if you would like to convert your grade point from gymnasiet from Sweden to Spain, here's an online tool that convert European grades: http://www.studyineurope.eu/grades
For those of you who might also plan to study in Sweden, here's an information-filled site: http://www.studyineurope.eu/study-in-sweden
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll be glad to help.
¡Buena suerte! / Lycka till!  |
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MalinW
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Spain is definatley interesting!
Do you know what universities in Spain that focus on the artistic?
(I don't speak any spanish at all, but would do my best to learn)
For now I've decided to go to Krabbesholms Högskola in Denmark to study graphic design and architecture for a year.
Btw, does anyone have any experience or something from Krabbesholm? |
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Juan Carlos
Joined: 12 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: Study in Denmark and Spain |
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Hej Malin! Hur står det till?
Arch studies in Spain usually focus on the technical aspect of building. However, there are also some courses more related to the artistic. Now, have you ever thought of studying a double degree? They are very common nowadays. Through a double degree, you may study in Denmark part of your arch program, and study in Spain another part. You may decide which courses to take. Why don't you contact your program coordinator and ask him/her about this option? It might be a very good solution to what you'd like to accomplish  .
By the way, for those students that want to study in Denmark , here's an interesting resource: http://www.studyineurope.eu/study-in-denmark
Lycka till! |
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