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poolvibe
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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Using the paint bucket requires drawing discipline. Every line snapped and joined. Take a lap amount the drawing with trim/extend.
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patrickm
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| poolvibe wrote: | | Using the paint bucket requires drawing discipline. Every line snapped and joined. Take a lap amount the drawing with trim/extend. |
What I used to do in a previous PC version (PC2000?), was select one of the lines that defines the area to be filled, then "select adjoining" -- by looking at the now selected lines and their corners, I could easily tell which corner wasn't trimmed properly. (I can't remember what the visual cue was, but it may have been that two lines trimmed correctly had the end point highlighting cancel each other out, so if the corner looked highlighted, it was trimmed incorrectly, or something like that...) In PC7 & 8, this trick doesn't work (or maybe I need to change my highlighting preferences). I found this technique very useful.
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Matt
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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that is a very nice delineation.
neither tool can properly fill an area that includes a hole.
when I want to fill such a region I draw lines that connect any 'holes' to the exterior, then use the flood tool, then delete the line. Because of this I usually set the pen for fills to NIL.
If you could be more specific about the difficulty you are encountering someone might have another technique that they would recommend.
there are other methods:
<http://www.powercaddbullpen.com/Bullpen/Methods/Hatch/QuickHatch.html>
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John Cruet
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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The QuickHatch method described in the bull pen does not consider that the current PowerCadd hatches do "stretch" in walls- associative hatches.
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pbacot
Joined: 15 Apr 2004
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Location: Northern California
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I sent that little note in long ago, before associative(?) hatches!
A couple other notes on the paint bucket.
1. It does fill around holes but the resulting polygon is messy with cross-over lines that can cause problems down the line, but OK in a lot of cases if the lines are not visible.
2. In complex shapes without a hole you can sometimes experience lines crossing over intervening arms and other unnecessary geometry. Clipping with another small polygon within the bounding (selection points) area but not overlapping the visible shape can clean this up. Clipping a paint bucket shape with a hole in it, will fill that hole.
3. At one time the paint bucket ignored dashed lines altogether. That was better. Some objects like arcs can be difficult to fill in some instances. There's other room for improvements but the tools progressed in the early years, if not lately.
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pbacot
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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gp
I finally saw your image. Is that shaft a rectangle or lines? It shouldn't matter but I have seen similar fill problems and... sorry I can't explain why it happens sometimes.
It could be you have duplicate line objects and that is confusing the tool? Otherwise placing a temporary line crossing the wall to the shaft, while using the bucket tool is one idea, as suggested. Or you can cut the shaft out and fill the area, then put the shaft back in with white fill. It doesn't look like you have a leak problem.
Nice wall-mounted fan coil symbol.
Peter
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gp
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| pbacot wrote: | | I finally saw your image. Is that shaft a rectangle or lines? It shouldn't matter but I have seen similar fill problems and... sorry I can't explain why it happens sometimes. |
Lines and none is duplicated.
Atteched the fancoil.
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