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mx2
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I do not disagree about most Architects can't actually build however I have yet to find one builder who can design well...and I emphasize "well" because everyone thinks their design is the best in the history of mankind. In fact I wish more builders would refarin from sincerely believing just because they can build that somehow this means they have a license to design...
It is undoubtedly rare, even more so these days, that individuals can both design and build. That said, I firmly disagree that one route to becoming an Architect is to just build. However I think all Architects ought to get more experience in construction, myself included. I certainly pounce on every opportunity...
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The Architect
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You don't just 'become' an Architect. Either you are an Architect - or you're not. It's that simple. If you feel/know that you understand 'Architecture' at an early age - for me it was when I was 5 years old - then Architecture is in your blood. So what you call 'work', really is meaningless. Architecture is a passion, a way of Life. And on that level, you can't just 'become' an Architect - sorry.
On the other architectural levels, education is where the rubber hits the road. And usually by third year uni, you'll know if it's worth - the work.
In my youth, my best friend's family built custom houses in a small 'trendy' town called Manotick. And thanks to him (and his father) I grew up with a hammer in my hand and tool belt around my waist. And by the time I was nineteen, I was walking high steel for EllisDon.
On my level, Architecture truely is a passion. I don't just design Architecture - I compose it. It's a world of difference. I know you guys can't understand this. But, in all the designs I've done - including thousands of rough sketches, I have nailed only a handfull of designs. Most times I feel like shit. Truely I do. But, in those very few moments when the design (in all it's glorious detail) just flowed from me - I swear I was standing right in the middle of all Creation.
Architects are born, they don't come from the post secondary education systems, they are Architects at birth.
So to me, the rest of the architectural crowd are fine people (truely they are), trying to be what they can - when they can. They have gone through years and years of study and worship - and to them it really does matter if they 'make it through' as you say. But they ain't Architects, they're just good folks trying to be an Architect.
Ever wonder why there's a universe of difference between you and Wright, Van Der Rohe, Gehry (for instance) et al??
Think about it. And think about what is it about Architecture that attracts you? Answer that in all honesty - take your time.
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csintexas
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I would think that the fact that "because everyone thinks their design is the best in the history of mankind." (including architects) would tell you something about the nature of people and architecture.
I might almost have to agree with DA on this on. You ether are an architect or are not. Otherwise your just doing some job that is different from other jobs.
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Carpenter, smith, wright, mason... job descriptions or bloodlines?
I designed and built my first fort with blankets and sofa cushions.
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mx2
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| Quote: | | Either you are an Architect - or you're not |
Now that's pure bullshit, even for one who toots his own horn so hard you'd think he was a musician. You honestly think at 5 years old you were an Architect? Your argument ends right there.
The difference between young Architects and world reknown Architects is the vast amount of experience and a little bit of luck borne from a helluva lot of hard work. Architects are constantly growing and learning with every project. Anyone who is worth their weight in salt knows that.
I have no idea what exactly attracts me personally to Architecture but I do know that I am as passionate about it as anyone on earth. But I give higher regards to the profession by always stating that I do not feel I am worthy of being called an Architect eve if everyone else does and I can put together just about any building typology in my sleep. I am currently project manager on 4 projects...in other words, I put the projects together, down to creating up the details and writing the specs. And I still feel I have a ways to go...
...not everyone is an Architect and certianly not thos who self-anoint themselves one.
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Madimel
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| When I was 5 years old, I had a huge poo that looked like an upside down version of the Guggenheim Museum. At that moment, I was an Architect!!! |
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""american Schools of Architecture are just a training camp for drawers and builders... that’s my point of view and I’m so sorry!""
Its nice to drop things like that without substantiating...If you are unhappy with your american education you should have studied harder, and spent less time in the clube. To the point, most builders are subject to OJT (thats on the job training to you who think they receive it in masters programs)...and they are quite successfull, but architects in the US are able to work alongside them without incident in most cases. They do what they do, we do what we do.
I wouldnt quite state that architecture will be surrounded by art, or drawing for that matter, but what makes an architect, in my opinion as I am currently experimenting with such an effort, is the willingness to dedicate yourself to shaping and re-creating a surrounding, or an experience, using your inherent skills. I graduated alongside many who couldnt draw by hand nor mouse, and they spent many a night on the couch (in studio) downloading mp3s. They still graduated, yet what did they get out of it? well thats up to them. School is greuling if you're afraid to stand up for what you've created on a daily basis in front of design juries. It's also very empowering..I stayed up four nights in a row for an assignment my first year of grad, but after that, I learned over time how to become more resourceful, and the night before my thesis presentation, I got plenty of sleep...much learned. Let those discussions and debates carry over into the pubs, travel abroad and meet people who are also staying up late, have a blast, and don't loose the fire, because it's easy to learn how to 'lay down' after graduating and settle for work. If you love architecture and what it represents in your place in history and culture, then you won't be satisfied with a nine to five job. If you settle for a nine to five job, you won't be satisfied with the money. I suppose I just made things worse for you..well... watch the fountainhead, it might help 
good luck
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