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singleye
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 Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: why bldg appears as geometrical form ? |
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maybe thousand people has asked that, but it came to my mind again.
if bldg mimic the nature, then in nature, there're geometries and there are random shapes, but why bldgs appears as geometrical forms only? (mostly)
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lekizz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Obviously you are correct, most buildings are rectilinear in form, probably because most building materials and components are rectilinear too. Engineering and construction is way more complicated with random curvy irregular shapes.
There was a looong thread recently about organic architecture. My definition of an architecture that is organic and refers to nature would be one that maybe weathers beautifully and sympathetically, one that displays elements of 'randomness' - wood grain, the mottling of bricks and stone, the signs of the human hand in the plasterwork... and don't forget the judicious use of natural daylight, natural ventilation, cooling and heating. And views out of course onto vegetation or landscape. It does not necessarily mean the building form has to look like a Gehry scribble. |
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JonBailey
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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yes, the reason that we use these modular peices is a direct result of the industrial age -- mass production of modular peices, which consequently produce rectalinear forms.
geometry IS found in nature, and it is up to us to decipher this geometry and see how we can learn from its meaning as it could apply to architecture.
with new digital fabrication techniques [in the information age] we can learn how to get away from mass produced modular peices, and rectalinear form, and learn how to build to customization better than ever than before, and at a lower cost.
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JonBailey
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Yes this is true... this was due to classical proportioning systems...
both of these techniques are falling to the wayside
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Kevin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Ouch, that was quick!
Seriously, I have nothing against biomorphic and free-form architecture. And I'm super on innovation, creativity, and appropriate expression unfettered. But there are many more substantive and profound reasons for the various norms of building around the world than simply a couple of lines of glibly dismissed traditions. Whether we're trying to make beautiful blobs or beautiful boxes, for robust structures, let's try to be robust in how we analyze them.
Like, what about gravity, for instance, and its general tendency in a given local and Earth to pull "straight" down?
Might that have some influence on common building geometries, perhaps? |
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birgco
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Why do buildings appear mostly in geometrical forms??
Veering off the superhighway of conventionality just a little bit onto the dusty trail of less common geometric forms means time and therefore costs ballon exponentially, and if you have ever tried to build an arched door way, a turret, a barrel ceiling, a curved wall or a dome.............
ya wouldn't ask............  |
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Landy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| oh no!!! please not another blob architecture thread |
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djswan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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What's geometry?
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barryhunter
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Geometric architecture |
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| Mankind is fascinated with geometry. A sense of order. Even the branch hut above is an ordered assembly of branches. Its hard wired to our brains. I am as into wild forms as anyone, but before we go there with architecture lets think if those shapes are really what we want. I am typeing this on a rectangular computer, with square keys, while drinking from a round cup, etc, etc. |
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J.Saravana Balaji
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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A geometrical Shaped buildings are functionally good in performance.Human body and the nature might not be in perfect geometry but if you observe the movement of any living organisim they will be geometric.
e.g if you swing your arm it generates a perfect circle with your shoulder as centre.and
you might have observed a flight of birds which form a triangle shape while flying.
Thats why we feel very uncomfortable in a organic shaped buildings. |
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djswan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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It's hardwired into our brains, and chimps weave a bed at night, and eat termites in termite mounds, and bee honey after diner. We're not the only builders using geometry.
That's one of my favorite images, I dig the canoe. I've lived it, with a tent, inflatable raft and duct tape for both raft and tent.
I've posted this pic before on another topic, didn't get much responce, has the wiring gone bad in the geometry, the sense of order perhaps?
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O-Archy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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DJ
That's a cool building, the owner-builder tragically died whilst constructing it...
Perhaps the main reason structures are rectilinear or 'simple' is due to the cost of something unique as well as the fact that zoning laws in urban areas dictate setbacks, heights, floor areas, etc, and that the financial, insurance and real estate industries are arch-conservative about being 'experimental' with the money being spent on somebodys magnum opus.
Another reason if the 'fear of the unknown' as most people want creature comforts, yes, eating honey after dinner could bee sweet, just as many people don't want their abodes to be 'out of step' with the neighborhood.
Sooo we end up with the sprawl like the foto you posted on another thread, plain vanilla, and boring built environments.
It was mentioned earlier in this thread about the classic proportioning systems being discarded, which is really tragic, these proportioning systems are grounded in long-term history, it's probably more of a design theory these days, like 20th century modernists devolving into post-modern, crashing into deconstructivism, now the blob- itorture, it's not really that pretty or maybe I should say,
"Commodity, Firmness and Delight'
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djswan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Cool,
That structure scores an A+ on my coolness scale. It is not pretty or stout, but could still pass with a 2.51. It does tell a good story.
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teamjdc
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Because we crave order. |
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