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cjm
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ahmeds
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| that is good design though it is rotten as you said. Why don't you maintain the same facade using new materials completely?
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cjm
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| ahmeds wrote: | | that is good design though it is rotten as you said. Why don't you maintain the same facade using new materials completely? |
ahmeds, thanks for your reply. I agree it's a good design and haven't dismissed the option to recreate it. When you suggest new materials, do you mean something other than timber?
If you mean recreating it with timber, the original pine joinery is quite detailed by todays standards.
It seems the choice of using pine timber in the original design was probably due to the high cost of the joinery breaking the budget.
If I were to re-create it with a hardwood and find a skilled joiner who will complete it efficiently and affordably could be a challenge.
Other issues are that the design is 20 years old and we've had intruders break the balustrades to gain access.
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cjm
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| edit - double replied
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panthony
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Design of a secure patio enclosure? |
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Chris,
I like the design. The dated construction style is consistent with the available practices of 20 years ago.
Your suggestion of steel is a good idea but will also come with a significant up-front cost however a much stronger, secure and sustainable life cycle.
I would design the lower ballustrade and rail using galvinised or powder coated steel/aluminum. The upper section I would break up into consistently sized sections with the diamond cross header made from composites and the center lattice sections recessed into the framing. All of this would be set up to create a system that could be replaced and or services in smaller more managable sections. The plus would be you could use currently available products very easily.
Using powder coated metals on the lower run along with composite up above could be done with permenant color applications to minimize and even eliminate maintenence.
Pete A.
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ahmeds
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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By new materails, I meant same timber, I don;t think you will not get a skilled craftsman to do that though you say the joinery is a bit complicated.
Burglar proof steel grills can be fixed from inside. The point is you will be like restoring and or conserving that building/house and architecture. That's also cheaper than to re design, with completely new materials all to gether, less time will be consumed for construction etc.
But if you are willing to have a different design then that's another part to be discussed on.
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lekizz
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| It's a sad reflection of the state of security in Cape Town if you feel the need to live inside a steel cage!! I agree with the others that your screen is very decorative indeed. I imagine it was originally designed to shade the house from the sun. Are there any security measures you can make to the perimeter of your land/property to stop intruders getting to the house in the first place? Failing that, maybe you could simply replace the thin spindles in the lower part of your screen with thicker members, which would not be so easy for the casual intruder to break.
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cjm
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all for your useful suggestions,
I have decided to get a few quotes for restoring the original design and look further into what the local options are for alternative materials.
Thanks again and all the best.
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