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evilolive Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 9	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Prison Design Can spatial planning impact in a way which is conducive to the rehabilitation of inmates. My idea is that if spaces are designed in way that promotes reflection versus intimedation there would be a higher success rate of inmates returning to society and being productive members. I am not suggesting building 5 star hotels, but utilizing psychology in conjunction with design to create spaces that have positive influences. What if cell design were organic, maybe patterned after the womb, could this have a positive impact.
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csintexas millennium club Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: USA	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Maybe we should do a better job raising our children and addressing mental health issues so they aren't in jail in the first place? Once they are there a nice space by itself would not make much if any difference in my opinion. More important would be things like personal safety from prison violence, education and treatment for mental health issues. _________________ -Chris Stewart http://bcshdb.blogspot.com > The B/CS Home Design Blog
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P.C. millennium club Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: Denmark	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: True, but colors open architecture, noce inviroments do form other people than slum and Chaps. What happen is that we build our own prisons where we can protect ourself.
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usarender millennium club Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Good idea Why don't you try applying this on pc, he needs serious rehabilitation back into society.
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P.C. millennium club Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: Denmark	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: usarender your oppinions about people suffering mental illness surprises me, your whole attitude about mental illness is quite strange. I for one would dislike such an attitude compleatly, your behaviour and whole attitude is nothing to brag about. It is not funny to read what you think about people with mental illness --- If I came across this tread and had someone in my family with a mental illness, I would become very angry I guess, and reading further what you said in these treads would only prove what you are. What you are is what you do that inclute projecting your own reflections onto others, so if you now claim I am mentaly ill you are only reflecting your own problems onto others. Last edited by P.C. on Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:43 pm; edited 1 time in total
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usarender millennium club Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Rehabilitation needed there... Now you have flat out admitted to having mental illness then pc? Even if you claim you don't, your attitudes clearly demonstrate that you desperately need rehabilitation back into society. Look at all your recent posts and the hatred, accusations, wild imagination and constant attacks you have launched. There seems to be no limit to your wild imagination. Last edited by usarender on Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
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lekizz millennium club Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 1212 Location: UK	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: I don't know ab out organic prison cells, but some people certainly need an organic chill pill
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usarender millennium club Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: I agree partially with evilolive Really, to some extent, I agree with evilolive, and have realized this myself over the course of time. Current prisons, their design, the treatment of inmates, rather then re-habilitating them back into society as productive members, tend to create worse nut cases out of them, by squashing them into tight quarters poorly designed, treated as cattle, and without proper psychological guidance and treatment. There is a need for more humane treatment, for more professional help, for better designed facilities, and for a better integration of these elements into the process of re introducing these elements back into society.
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lekizz millennium club Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 1212 Location: UK	Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: I am working on a new police/prison building at the moment and the project brief specifically asks for soft, calming colours on the walls. Conversly, it strictly rules out the use of strong reds and yellows. But, though the building design could have a positive effect on its inmates, I agree there are far more important things that influence behaviour in prisons. And the whole issue of what is an imprisonable offence needs to be re-examined. While our prisons seem to be overflowing with petty criminals, drug addicts and the mentally ill, there are far more serious crimes that don't get punished. For example I read in one of the UK architectural magazines this week about a builder and architect who demolished a building in a conservation area to avoid a £100,000 tax bill. They got off with a warning and told to pay £12000 legal costs. So they were £84,000 better off for breaking the law!!
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usarender millennium club Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca	Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: The Coolest Prison Ever The Coolest Prison Ever --->> Cool Prison If you have criminal persuasions in life, whatever they may be, might we suggest you relocate your place of residence to Austria? The reason for this; Austria happens to be the geographic location of the most awesome (to our knowledge) prison in the world. Check out The Leoben Justice Centre, Steiermark The prison not only houses cells for criminals (duh), it also packs in a complex of courts, too. We are guessing only the biggest and baddest of bad guys get to stay here, so you are probably better off committing crimes at home. This will ultimately save you the hassle of stealing money for an airline ticket, which would eventually lead to abject disappointment once you arrive in Austria/are imprisoned in a shithole. Still, I wonder if the Leoben's showers area is as inviting as the foyer... house that one for ya "piece of cake".
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The Architect Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 184	Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: I'd love to design a prison. There's not much difference between a prison and a church/monastery. Take care...
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ahmeds Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 128 Location: UAE	Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: I think designing a prison as you asked will in one way or the other help rehablitate the inamtes. It is not a must that they should be more kuxurious but architects should come with ideas and designs that will create a peaceful enviroment as a catalyst of rehabilitating the inmates.
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Creasia Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 15	Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Prison I think that encouraging a positive environment in a prison would help keep order. I love the link for the Coolest Prison, it seems like it could cater to those whom they say are there for the "free food and shelter" though. I just did a series of architectural thesis renderings for a student in the UK. It was facinating. I would much rather design churches, but it was interesting to see the psychology that was involved. _________________ Shaun Cahoon www.foresight3d.com
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ahmeds Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 128 Location: UAE	Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: I read one arcticle recently , and found that oragnic archietcture, applied with illusionary designs, in hospitals helped to comfort the patients, and hence improved their conditions.
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JonBailey Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 111	Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: i think that architecture should, does, and can have an impact before one reaches the prison. in many cases architecture could, and i would say does, play a role subconsciously in the reasons they are in the situation that they are --prison. ones living condition plays an enormous role in their outlook on life... ...the point is that architecture can be used as a deterrent of crime before one reaches the prison by changing a possibly otherwise negative outlook on life due to their living conditions. _________________ Jon Bailey a r c h i m o r p h Last edited by JonBailey on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:43 am; edited 1 time in total
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