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SDR
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Right. I should have said, ". . .not often attained in the works of man."
A table will not function without providing a level surface approximately 30" AFF (above finished floor), but there are a limitless number of ways of supporting that surface. The parameters for a chair, and wheel, are similar. So, FFF does not imply that there is only one form for every function.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Is all of that rhetoric meant to refer only to the appearance in his facades of strong verticals and horizontals that might suggest the structural frame within ? Or are we happy rather to see that it anticipates the more obvious functionalsim to appear twenty or more years in the future, in Europe ? |
I think so.
I think when we look at living things we can see that form follows function. Non functional or less functional life tends to be replaced with better function. This certainly does not restrict life to the most basic form of simplicity. How come we still have beauty in living things only concerned with function?
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P.C.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Exactly --- form follow function.
The Form of constant poisoning a nice guy follow it's function, to make sure to destroy another nice guy, GLOW when it succes and the guy finaly agrea that you ruined his life by years of poison , harming him, his silli autistic son, his wife, his work, his possibility to earn an nonest income, it work ; now after years of harassing and poisoning who doubt that 3dh is a silli thing and Per Corell is a silli guy .
Go out and find another guy now, someone like the one Jeanneret crowded the troops together to harras on usenet so many years ago, --- you are still here together, why not write your victory speach , the form of that surely will follow it's function , to ruin a guy's life with lies and poison every time he post, that way you hidden behind a fake name, can reach out and destroy a nice guy. |
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P.C.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Have a nice day ! |
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usarender
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: Don't let them discourage you Pearl |
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| Wow Perl, don't let them get you down. They are trying to do the same thing to me, to no avail and they will not succeed. They maskerade behind constant posts in this forum, and behind pretty little designs, but their true intent can be seen, to squash others as an ant. Don't let these asses discourage you or your family or make you believe they can ruin your work. You deserve to succeed and the merit is all yours. Hang in there buddy. |
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P.C.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Erll I have a working theori that this scum belong to the last Usenet wars, a dungon tale with multible fake personalities that in the late 90' finaly ecchoed their sad existances out of the damp seats to realise none of them had a life.
The remains ,acturly those who lost became those who survived shaltered by a few unlucky web fora's that unaware contained fresh pray for those out-driven scum, who made the air so thick of pervert self reflecting, that everyone had to leave.
This site and Archinect recived -- and I must ask you to exchouse it followed me -- but a sad pervert with Le. Corbu. as favourite architectural hero (crazy you know as this guy was an artist not an architect) , but took a new nickname "Jeanerret" in this fora. Now My mailbox are still stuffed with the most dirty personal private mails from this leftover, who in the wars, ended up realising, that none of the ones he licked up to would even reply his slimy documents ; often tree lines with the most smelly fishy stank, anyway.
Read the treads and you reconise so many clues about thes retired devils, those who havn't yet died in a grusom wish of dreams of how to harras yet another hippie like Per Corell has my most natural wishes on their way, --- acturly I thought you knew the scums. |
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usarender
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Thanks for the note |
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I haven't heard of some of these vipers, but thanks for warning.
Now we know hot to fight back.
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P.C.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Not fight back, it's proberly what keep the GLOW alive, -- if just those Usenet wars had been over just a little before, they would have dried out and the static eletricity had replaced the little thought left in what was once their brains true ; but if you dobt my story, there are search mashines, and you can go to Usenet in the architecture and Cad and boatbuilding groups ; for some reson corners of battlefields of the Usenet wars back then, after they moved to Designcommunity, it became strangely quiet in those groups dealing with handyman issues , old american politics and architecture that is now in the hands of DON . Go search the trails and you will find I am right, -- that beside the fact that one of the ugliest round I count 69 year of age today, made you cencur by master pointer, my tries to defend myself once again ; think about it, who you protect. And vorse just a tread as this originaly, was the holy dreams of the Usenet wars ; someone suggest to cencor the group, an old Cirkus trick, maby you are to young to know but then, we have Google, and emagine you made same wrong thing again, cencur the one who has an honest reson, a guy with a brilliant idear with a crowd of bloodthirsty Usenet nolives hounting him "for fun". |
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| I think Ludwig Mies Van Der Rohe coined the phrase "form follows function" along with "less is more" in my opinion he was the true Modernist. Frank was just lucky enough that there were some great design philosophies during this time that he could adapt into his on style. I do respect his Architecture dispite his supposive arrogance. I feel that what he was saying is that no line should be drawn if it does not serve a purpose, you see this with his interiors. His built-in furniture lends itself to the architecture and vice-versa everything begins and ends with a purpose. These guys were awesome because they did not rely on decoration they used the guts of the structure to make something splendid. Hooray Modernist, Hooray Minimalist, you are the true visionaries. Utility is key, Utility with aesthetics now in my opinion thats the good stuff. |
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SDR
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Mies did coin "less is more" -- a generation after Sullivan, whose contribution about form and functon is discussed and quoted above.
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usarender
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: Too much emphasis in Architecture on FFF |
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| Too much attention is placed historically on FFF and the greater process of Architectural thought and the sequence which leads to a solution is often overlooked. |
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SDR
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Catch phrases and mottos are easily digested and remembered -- and they are "catchy." But in two or three words how can the complexities of any issue be adequately captured ?
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usarender
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: They can't |
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| They can't. It is more complex then two or three words, that is the problem when we try to simplify. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Just out of curiosity, and partly because I am kind of ingnorant compared to some. What is one application where form surpases function and it can not be disputed. Other than creating aesthetic value. |
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