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 Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: Sheik Moses of the Aztecs: Symbolic and Iconic Design Clues |
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I would like to exclusively present to this website my latest "re-find" or "re-discovery", that of a "Moses" character among the Aztecs,
………Chi-co-moz-toc, who I am calling "Sheikh Moses-Thoth".
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/152/sheikhmoses4xw5.gif
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/83/sheikhmoses3pl8.gif
(note the spiral design behind the feathered crown)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1401/chicomoztoc2ht1.gif
(depicted in "The Aztecs" by Richard Townsend, with the 7 Caves of the Moo-shee-cas, at Colhuacan...)
Background Research
Normally, I am in deep-theory mode, backed by a multitude of coincidental, researched, published information which I piece together as “very plausible connections”, from my amateur, non-academic viewpoint.
The exceptions to this "theory" frame of mind, are in circumstances like this Sheikh Moses example, where the artist depiction of the Aztec Chicomoztoc is surrounded by other historically related characters which pinpoint this Aztec-Moses character to the Biblical Judaic character.
I now most emphatically believe, the Aztec Chicomoztoc is the Judaic Moses character.
Egypt's Other Names...identical to Aztec legends...
Take for instance, the name "Aztec", which some have considered was a manufactured name, referring to the "Place of Reeds", and "Land of White Herons". History tells us that these names are also ancient references to the land of Egypt itself.
Or the name... Ah-su-teh-ka, which is almost identical in phonetic convention to the God of the Hyksos, Su-te-ka.
As you may know, the Hyksos are now confidently identified with the Semitic tribes from the northern area of present day Turkey/Syria who invaded all lands due-south, down-to, and including Northern Egypt, at the time frame of Moses, Aken-Aten, Nefertiti, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos
http://www.answers.com/topic/hyksos
In fact, there is some historical speculation that the biblical Moses may have been the brother of Akenaten, possibly a string of Semitic, Hyksos Pharaohs, and that the Judaic tribes and their Exodus occurred at the identical time frame (within 100 years or so) of the expulsion of the Hyksos kings by the Southern Egyptians.
On these same terms, there is a historical double-temple in the Valley of Mexico that is plausibly dedicated to the Pharaoh Akenaten, and its name is "Coatencan"…plausibly Ka-Aten-Aken.
Akenaten and "Ka of Aten-aken".
I found this Coatencan double-temple name on the tourist map I mentioned earlier...which I now call the Davalos/Aparicio map, ("Plano reconstructivo de la región de Tenochtitlan" -1973- by Luis Gonzalez Aparicio) which merged the pre-Conquistador names of the Valley of Mexico, with the pre-conquest iconic symbolism, thus re-creating what the Conquistadors had tried to destroy. This extremely remarkable map is sold today on the streets of Mexico City for $5 as a tourist-token, and $20 on-line. (not by me)
http://www.bereda.com/losos/L-M/frames4.htm
(hit the top-left button called "Mapa Antiquo")
Based on this incredible map, I am fully convinced that the Conquistadors knew of the Egyptian, Greek, and Judaic presence in the Valley of Mexico, and this is one of the primary reasons for their savage brutality in attempting to erase all vestiges of the previous "pagan" images.
Remember the desperate and horrific times of Isabellan Spain, early 1500s…defeating and expelling the Moors, executing and expelling the Sephardic Jews, Inquisition, torture, expulsion of Protestants and other undesirables…not a pretty time!
At the same time, the Conquistadors are alleged to have staged inquisitions against indigenous tribes because of their Judaic ancestry! In addition, the legend is that Spanish messengers who transported the ancient Aztec Codicies back to Spain, which revealed the ancient connections, were ALSO imprisoned, tortured, and killed. (hard to believe, but this is what I have read)
However, within 20 or 30 years or so of the conquistador arrival into the Americas, there was a sweeping reversal-effort on the part of the Catholic Church to somewhat incorporate the ancient idolatry in the new church-building efforts, to win the allegiances of the local tribes who were numerous in numbers, divided in loyalties, and waging various levels of resistance. In many instances, this "change of heart" by the Church is the only reason why these iconic symbols survived.
In this thread, I am concentrating on how the Crowns of the Pharoahs and Egyptian Gods almost perfectly match the Crown of the Aztecs, most exemplified by Chicomoztoc.
Spiral, Feather, Plume, Crook, Glyph
There is so much new information, let me build on this message piece by piece.
The first is the comparison of crown-headgears and iconic symbols, worn by the Aztec King, Thoth-Tehoti, Maat, the glyph of the Hyksos, the Shepherds Crook (the Judaic Shepherd Kings), the Fibonacci Spiral which was associated with Tehoti, Hermes, Sacred Geometry, the Templars, and the Chinese Yin Yang (of Taoism’s Dao De Ching). Last, the Shepherd’s Crook and spiral shows up in the depiction of Chicomoztoc himself.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6175/crownsymbolscomparepm2.gif
Aztec Crown highlight…
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9982/thothhead2cm8.gif
The Aztecs, by Richard Townsend… a treasure of Egyptian, Greek, Judaic mythology and symbolics, and he doesn’t know it yet…
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/1638/aztecthothnz7.gif
It will take scholars and academics and research analysts to figure out all the iconic symbolism present in these artworks. It is way over my head and will not be done in my lifetime, I am sure.
But Yes, I believe the Aztec tribes, among the 43 indigenouse tribes of the Valley of Mexico, are Judaic tribes, and may possibly be 7 of the 12 tribes of Israel.
I discovered nothing. The Conquistadors knew all of this, and many, many authors have identified these ancient connections before me.
Your feedback is appreciated.
-Ed Z
My own appreciation...
Thanks as always to Alex Sokolowski of World-Mysteries.com, who e-published my articles on Tehoti, as the focus of Teotihuacán in the Valley of Mexico...
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_edziom3.htm
and to Graham Hancock, Fingerprints of the Gods, 1994, with his quote…”The animal-God symbols of the Valley of Mexico are identical to the Egyptian animal-god symbols”…this quotation launched me on my personal research!
Extreme thanks to Simcha Jacobovici who produced the exceptional Exodus Decoded, one of the most advanced documentaries ever produced...who with the clues he unearthed, I matched with Aztec iconography....(much more on this later Simcha!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Decoded
and for Richard Townsend, author of "The Aztecs" which has been a tremendous gold mine of information, still untapped...(more on this later)
Luis Gonzalez Aparicio, for the most important archaeological, accidental map in a very long time, his Plano reconstructivo de la región de Tenochtitlan", 1973.
John Sherwood, Cablevision of Connecticut...my Rabbi in spirit...and wife Sheila!
and for my three sons, John, Jim and Tom, for supporting their crazy dad. John Ziomek, Los Angeles, for historical research assistance.
And of course…this amazing website, Designcommunity.com. thanks Kevin.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Judaic Iconic Designs, Prophets, Legends among the Aztecs |
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Judaic Symbols Among the Aztecs, Iconic and Historical Design clues...
Joseph
Ark of the Covenant?
Solomon
Samuel
Athena
Joseph and his Technicolor Dreamcoat, among the Aztecs....
Joseph known to the Aztecs as Xochipilli, (Zho-she-pee-lee), Prince of Flowers
http://www.erowid.org/entheogens/xochi/xochi.shtml
http://www.nemeton.com/axis-mutatis/popocatapetl/mk-xochi.jpeg
http://www.nemeton.com/axis-mutatis/xochi.html
Joseph was the youngest son of Abraham. I am not sure if his birth name was "Joseph", or if he acquired the title later in life (Moses's birth name may have been "Osarseph"). However, this "flower of Abraham", this youngest son of Abraham was sold into slavery of the Pharoah, and then rose up to be one of the most powerful young men in Egypt, known extensively for his growing abilities... "He could make anything grow, and for this he was well loved by the Pharoah". The extremely prominent name of Zhoshee (Xochi) among the Aztecs, and this name's association with plants, hallucinogenic flowers, and mysticism (also meaning warriors and stars), leads me to believe that Zhoshee-pilli may be the biblical "Joseph", Prince of Flowers of the "El" God.
Ark of the Covenant, Iconic Clues found in the National Flag of Mexico?
The riddle, the challenge, and the map...
Top of the Ark of the Covenant, as discovered by Simcha Jacovovici, Exodus Decoded, http://theexodusdecoded.com/index1.jsp
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7464/arkeaglescomparesi0.gif
The top of the Ark depicts two birds facing each other, perched on the top of bull's horns. The Zeus legend is very similar, with the meaning that "Zeus released two birds from Mt. Olympus, one to fly East, the other West, to meet on the opposite side of the world. Where they would meet is the entrance to the "underworld".
The original ancient Aztec-Moosheeca symbol of Mexico City was a non-dramatic image of "two birds together (one large, one small) perched on a prickly pear cactus". Today's national flag of Mexico contains the evolved image on the left, depicting an "Eagle eating a snake on a prickly pear cactus".
On the right is the image of the Eagle feeding her young, and this is the crowning symbol of what is considered to be a blueprint for the ancient Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, as prophesized by Ezekiel (History of Knights Templar, by Charles Addison). Note also in the image on the right, are the roses and ferns, very similar to the wreath effect on the image in the flag on the left.
I believe these two images are the answer to the riddle, challenge, and map, as depicted on the top of the Ark of the Covenant. The two birds were released on the other sides of the world, and met together again in the Valley of Mexico, the "underworld/innerworld", the "Ombligo-umbilical", the "womb of creation", the "Atla-coaleeso", Chalice of creation, found in "Te-noch-teet-lan".
Question note: Is the name "Atla-coaleeso", or "Atza-coaleeso" similar in phonetics to..."Al Acsa" Mosque of Jerusalem? I think it is amazingly close!!!
Is the Judaic Ark of the Covenant buried beneath the main temple of Tenochtitlan, now the main Cathedral in Districto Federales of Mexico City?
Samuel among the Aztecs...
This next entry of "Chimal" is my more tentative theory, in that the Aztec references of Chimalhuacan and Chimalpan, and the plausible ancient references to that name from the Egyptians, Judaism, Hindu, and Babylonian are numerous.
For examples, Shamash was the Babylonian Sun God. Shimaliyah among the Hindu were the pincers of the constellation Scorpios (I have read and cannot prove). Zuben-eschemali were the Arabic names of the pincers of Scorpios. Samuel, Shmuel were names of the Judaic prophet, one of the three most revered prophets. There are several other possibilities in this phonetic match. I would guess that the ancients were masters of the double and triple-entendre, where Gods and constellations and meanings were merged into one name or temple complex, to satisfy all parties to their particular beliefs, much like the Virgin Mary of the Christian faith succeeded the mother goddesses of before.
Aztec constellation observation structures... Chimalpan, Chimalhuacan, etc.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3708/shimalhd6.gif
1.4 Meg, Gateway to the Aztec underworld, Tenoctitlan.... from the Davalos/Aparicio/Penafiel map of 1973
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1225/aztecstripoe9.gif
Scorpios constellation...
http://cse.ssl.berkeley.edu/img/scorpio.gif
Belt of Orion constellation
http://www.- abuse alert -/images/Orions_Belt_1.gif
Solomon among the Aztecs-"Acolman"
Aztec Temple-synagogue of Solomon, covered by Conqustador Church...
http://www.acolman.gob.mx/
http://www.colonial-mexico.com/Central%20Mexico/acolman.html
"Athena" Mother Goddess among the Aztecs...Tonantzin
...on earlier maps her name is spelled closer to "Tena-tozin", as in Athena...., also Tena-huacan (Temple of Athena), and Atenco (Atenaka or Atena-Inca?) ...Shrine of Athena...compare with Greek Temple of Athena-Nike....
note the helmet of Athena (Greek)
http://www.uark.edu/campus-resources/dlevine/Athena.jpg
Aztec Athena... Tonantzin...."Tenatzin"
http://www.hfac.uh.edu/courses/engl3396/kjewett/images/tonantzin.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonantzin
At the end of the day...we are all brothers and sisters of humanity, with virtually the exact DNA... Christians, Jews, Muslims, Bhuddists, Hindu...
Have a wonderful holiday, and pray for peace for all mankind, womankind, childrenkind!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: A 2nd look at Ark of Covenant and Tenochtitlan Design Clues |
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In this segment, I am adding more circumstantial evidence, not proof, that the iconic symbolism on the top of the Ark of the Covenant (discoverd by Simcha Jacobovici, Exodus Decoded) was "solved" by the symbolism of Tenochtitlan, Valley of Mexico. ...see "the exodus decoded" website
http://theexodusdecoded.com/index1.jsp
The first graphic shows the top of the Ark, as mentioned earlier, two birds facing each other on bulls' horns, with what might be considered "direction indicators" up the wings terminating in a round hole...
Possibly, this is only my imagination, or possibly these design-forms coincide with the Zeusian-type legend wherein two eagles were released from one side of the world, to meet up on the other side of the world, which was the "land of creation", the "land of the womb", "underworld", "land of the night"...etc.
Another graphic, taken from what is called a copy of the "Mendoza Codex", shows the eagle of Tenochtitlan, perched ontop of a Saguarro cactus, at what could be considered a "cross-roads" from all four corners of the globe.
If you note in this graphic, underneath the cactus and eagle is a circular shield, with 7 seed-like objects imbedded, which may correspond to an ancient Babylonian/Judaic mythology of the "seven seeds of creation", or something similar. These seven "seed-pods" are also found depicted at Colhuacan-Chicomoztoc, now known as "bent mountain".
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3776/eagles4cornersco4.jpg
In my theory, this second depiction shows the solution to the Ark of the Covenant riddle.
Simcha Jacobovici discovered the Ark image, and asked the questions regarding the Exodus, and I believe the symbol of Tenochtitlan, which is present day Mexico City, and Mexican National flag, gives one answer to those many riddles...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: Architectural Menorrahs on Aztec Church Crowns |
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And for my latest contribution, I believe the architectural-style of the Conquistador "churches" in the Valley of Mexico, i.e., Acolman and Meztitlan, show a Menorrah-style "crown" on the top....
9-candle style Menorrah on the crown of Acolman (Temple of Solomon, I believe)
http://www.acolman.gob.mx/
7-candle style Menorrah on the crown of Meztitlan, (Moses of the Underworld?)
http://sepiensa.org.mx/contenidos/animacion1/apatin/img/meztitlan.jpg
Also note:
With the mounting evidence of Moses and the Judaic tribes in ancient America, I now believe Mississippi means..."shrine of Moses"...in Egyptian..."Cippi of Moses"
Michigan, where I originally believe it to originate from the Babylonian "Mashkan Shappur", I now believe is tied into a meaning of "Tribe of Moses"...
A laughing matter?...Moses, King of the American Forest...
On a lighter note, the Abenaki name of "Moze", meaning "twig eater", may refer to the King of the Forest, the Prince of his harem of cows, the wanderer among his forest kingdom...Moses... aka "Moose".
Finally, let me add an artistic facial comparison...Alexander the Great, Moctezuma, and Tecumseh...for me they are very close in features...
I don't claim these theories to be true, I only suggest them as strongly possible for being "true", for everyone's view and comment...
Ed Z (thanks to www.imageshack.us for image hosting)
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: Architectural Comparisons, Tenochtitlan and Ramses II |
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The time frame that I am focusing on, in this thread, is of course the Aztec equivalent of the 18th and 19th Dynasties of Egypt, which includes Akenaten (18th) and later Ramses II (19th), both of whom display the Hyksos(Judaic) Flail and Shepherd's Crook iconic symbols, also in the figure of Chicomoztoc.
On the architectural side, there is also the curious similarity between the Main temple of Tenochtitlan and the Luxor, Egypt temple complex of Ramses II.
The "twin mountains of sunrise" as an architectural "construct" is, I believe, a Babylonian-origin theology-mythology, which showed up in almost identical form in the Aztec Valley of Mexico, and Egypt, and ancient-day Iraq.
I am asking that better academic minds than my own can share in this mystery of why these structures seem so similar, and maybe some young architectural student can carry this research further. I say it is no coincidence they appear to be so close.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8206/mountainsofsunrisebv8.gif
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: The Big bird, Paharro, Pharoah? |
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On the History Channel website, I submitted a photographic comparison of the Western Wall of Teotihuacan.
As previously mentioned, I believe Tehoti, aka Thoth, aka the Greek Hermes, are all names for the "God of knowledge", and probably was the root name for the English word "thought".
But Teoti-huacan in today's Mexico, the Temple of Teoti, is almost guaranteed the Temple of the Egyptian "Tehoti". Early versions of Tehoti in Egypt were given as a long-beaked Ibis bird, which kept "pecking for truth" in the desert sands.
By sheer luck, in a tourist trip to the Pyramids of the Valley of Mexico, I took the picture of the Western wall of the Temple of Teotihuacan. Only six months later did I realize that the "shadows" on the left of the dark staircase may have meaning, and it took me some time using Adobe Photoshop and a Canon color copier to plausibly decipher their meaning.
Tehoti, I believe, is the tall, long-beaked figure to the left of the staircase, with (guessing here) Set/Suteka/Saite or Venus to the right of the staircase, cradling the head of Osiris...
(larger view)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4903/teotihuacan5na8.gif
Now I have mentioned these images before, but I am now realizing an often mentioned god-figure among the Amerindian tribes, and that is of the "Bird-Man-God", even referred I believe to the figure "Chicomoztoc" at the beginning of this thread.
The Spanish word for "big bird" is Paharro. The Egyptian word for King was "Pharoah". I am guessing that these two names are one and the same, and may have originally referred to the ultimate achievement of man on earth... to be "all knowledgeable", "all wise"...like "the big bird" Pharoah?
And a side note...I believe the Tehoti Egyptian God of knowledge, is related to the Dao De Ching, aka Taoism, Chinese theology of "knowledge". (Another example of the world being "connected".)
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Alexander the Great - Alexander of Macedon, or Alexander of Macedonia:
Arda Wiraz Nāmag - in Zoroastran Persian
Eskandar-e Maqduni - in Farsi
Al-Iskander Al-Makadoni - in Arabic
Alexander Mokdon - in Hebrew
Tre-Qarnayia - in Aramaic
but he is also depicted and described as the Greek God Ammon:
al-Iskandar al-Akbar - in Arabic
Sikandar-e-azam - in Urdu
Skandar - in Pashtu (Afghan)
apparently his Empire reached as far as the Punjab.
however the first King of a unified Macedonia was King Amyntas III.
I just wonder if there are any indications in the Mexican lore about an equivalent for the Greek God Ammon (or Amen, or Yamanu in Egyptian).
You know far more about this than I do, but I understand that American Indians are believed to be of Asian origin (from the Steppes). With Alexander's Empire reaching so far, could that be a physical link (if the timescales are right) ?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: Greek presence in the Americas versus Alexander's |
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Rich...it is certainly a great question, and I am not sure I have an easy answer. I see massive Greek presence, but not Alexander-specific presence, and a good book of theories would fill a library....Let me try:
The single most important question given to me, which is valid is, "What role and spin did the Colonist arrivals have?"
So I see a super-saturation of obvious Greek names, Greek Gods, Greek City States, Greek mythologies. Names like Athens GA, Sparta New Jersey, Illyria Ohio, Minneapolis MN, Argo Illinois, Peoria Illinois, etc.
Then you have the obscure Greek names appearing, some names so old that even Greek encyclopedias might not explain them, such as Netes, Metes, Hypate, three of the original Greek Muse. (they were discarded for an expanded "official" 9 Muse). Two of these names appear I believe as Hopatcong, and Netcong, New Jersey, near Phila-delphia, (and maybe Musconetcong).
The single most prolific clue to the Greek presence are the suffixes...such as
"los" usually meaning light (Tlaloc, Tlalos)
"polis", meaning city state: Minneapolis, or Acapulco.
en-ka, probably meaning "first God", "one God", or "leader", compare with Babylonian en-ka, or Greek...??? "Nike", and of course "Inca"
I believe the Greek Atlas (the Titan God who kept the sky from falling), was the Aztecan "Tlaloc", or "Tlalos", God of Rain, Floods, and Droughts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaloc
http://www.ecotravelmexico.com/imagenes/Tlaloc.jpg
http://www.eztlinahua.com/Tlaloc.jpg
http://www.hnet.uci.edu/mclark/foliiov.jpg
Other "loso", "lee-so" suffixes, from the Aztec...Totoloz-inco, Coachilco.pu (Co-ah-kee-lee-sho-pu-lee-so), Cuicuilco, Huacalco
Note: Even the Greek name Titan begs the comparison with Aztecan "Totonaka", Egyptian "Te-ho-te", Thoth, and modernish "Teutonic Knights", almost a combination of "Titan" and "Nike/Inca".
Aztecan examples...
Atenco.pu Ah-ten-in-ka-po-lee-so, or Ah tee nee-ka, City-Shrine of Athena, compare with Temple of Athena-Nike in Athens.
Atlauntenco Aht-lan-ten-in-ka
In the Aztecan Valley of Mexico, in a very prominent hilltop position, is "Ocopulco", which I believe is comparable to the Acropolis of Athens.
Acapulco I believe is the Greek "Acropolis". Also, Aztecan Copilco, Otoncapulco, Tepepolco, Tetecpilco etc.
So there are boatloads of Greek clues, with only the previous mentioned possible relationship with "Arkansas" for Alexander...
Arkansas (Alexander or later-?? Xerxes II)
Arksantrs (Alexander the Great) Macedonian time frame, pg. 942, An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Wallis Budge
Meri Amen setep-en-Ra Arksantrs...
(see also page 941... Artakhashassha...)
http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/4701/alexanderpg9422gv.jpg
American States, Name Design....
http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/topic-9788.html
Alexander basically conquered towards the East, maybe ignored the West?
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