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OSfllwrb
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 Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: ultra-right Israeli blog received Best Blog award |
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Samson Blinded: A Machiavellian Perspective in the Middle East Conflict also scored high in all categories it was nominated. Google earlier banned advertising of that blog for unacceptable content.
Samson Blinded's author advocates religious state of Judea at the border with Israel and expulsion of Arabs. Obadiah Shoher denies democracy dominated by liberals and Muslims and calls Israelis to oppose police efforts at removing the settlements. His other point is dismanlting economically unbearable Israeli army and relying on nuclear weapons. However, he decried Lebanese and Iraq invasions.
Public opinion seems to strongly shift the the right in Middle East issues. Any thoughts on that? |
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: Central Issue of Iraqi Conflict, besides oil... |
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OSfllwrb...thank you for posting this troublesome topic. If there are two issues causing the Iraq problem for America, in my opinion it is the "protection of America's oil interests", and the "protection of Israel".
It is not easy for me to say that one party is wrong, and the other party is right. I don't live there. I don't have bulldozers threatening my house in Gaza, or rockets falling on my house in Israel, or a million sons dead -the legacy of a regional war in Iran!
How about the answer, that all sides are guilty?
Now however, we have proxy regional wars being waged where Americans have voluntarily jumped into the middle of these messes, AND IT IS GETTING MUCH, MUCH WORSE. These wars directly involve the Saudis, Lebanese-Christians, Lebanese Sunnis, Palestinians, Hezbollah-Shiia, Somalias, Ethiopians, and surprise, surprise...Ahmadinejad of Iran...
The world's Case developing against the Iranians...
Strike one...Ahmadinejad threatens verbally to exterminate the Israelis.
Strike two...Iranian undercover fighters are found killing Americans in Baghdad and exploding IEDs...(not the only ones doing this, by any means)
Strike three...Iranian technology...IEDs and maybe shoulder fired anti-aircraft missles, are being used to undermine the new troubled Iraqi government...
Strike four...Ahmadinejad just visited Chavez in South America, you know the guy who is becoming Stalin...shutting down radio stations, privatizing corporations, requesting to be named "leader for life".... (net-net, the cancer is spreading...)
Now, it probably took 1 million dead and wounded, with an estimated 2 million displaced refugees in Iraq for America to get rid of one man Saddam, and his clique...Oh, and half a trillion dollars doing it...
Do the right wingers of Israel really believe that Nuclear weapons can be any answer, to any solution here? Or will everything get massively worse?
Do any red-blooded Americans believe that using our military to take out one psychotic thug idiot like Ahmadinejad will change the future? Or will everything get massively worse?
As I live and breathe, as I promise to you, no good American believes this! No good Palestinian believes this. No good Jewish person believes this. No Lebanese believes this. Certainly no good Iranian believes this.
But stupid Wars will happen anyways, won't they? Humans love it, like the world did in 1914 (Rich said it first)!
"What if they had a war, and America decided not to show up?"
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Antisthenes
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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this very sad, a racist apartied zionist state is in nobodies interest especialy not those who ascribe to and cog for it.
once people can realize there is no such thing as 'evil' and see all fellow human and creatures for that matter with respect we will live in a Brighter world.
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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The President of Iran never said that he, or any other Iranian, wanted to exterminate the people of Israel.
Iran has abided by its nuclear treaty obligations. Iran has - yet again - offered to allow inspection of its nuclear research facilities. The very ones that Bush and Israel pretend are such a threat.
The BRITISH troops patrolling the Iran-Iraq border have shown that Bush is (again) lying about the support for Iraqis that he pretends is coming from Iran.
Enough of this playing the fool. Bush and his gang lied America into a war in Iraq. We know that. It is not even disputed.
So now the same liars are lying again - this time about Iran.
What threat is Iran to America? Zero.
What threat is Iran to Israel ? Zero.
Go look at a map.
Some of America's most senior legislators are alarmed over the openly stated risk of Bush dragging America into a war of aggression.
And Israel ? Israel is culturally falling apart. The scandals are so frequent, so bad, go so deep that it is clear that there is no harmony in Israel itself. The head of the Holocaust Centre itself - Yad Vashem - recently compared the behaviour of Israel to the Palestinians with the behaviour of Nazis to Jews during the 1930's.
The problem is not the state of Israel, but the Zionists. Like the sicko Blog (which I believe was banned by Google at one time), the image of Israel is getting worse and worse. Jimmy Carter writes a book trying to find some sense and a way for peace - and he is viciously attacked in the Israeli media and, as a result, elsewhere.
Those who support Zionist extremism are the ones who will destroy Israel.
However, my view is different from what many feel. Personally I believe that Bush wants to provoke Israel into attacking Iran - and then he will betray them. He is after all Prescott Bush's grandson. And it is a treacherous sleight-of-hand which would appear to fit in just fine with his character.
(NOTE: the sizeable Jewish population in Iran is not, and has not been persecuted, and chooses to live there.)
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: Confusion: Zionism and Likud Party and Israeli people... |
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First of all, in my life, I have been called virtually every racial slur, sexual slur, even some ethnic slurs, certainly political slurs...one of which was "anti-Zionist", and I don't know what it means.
So I see the term "zionist" used here and other locations, and it puzzles me. Is "Zionism" an Israeli "neo-con"? Does "Zionism" mean "Judaic racists against Arabs"? Are all, or the majority of Israeli citizens considered "Zionists" by mere fact of their citizenship?
From the political side, while the Likud Party has been democratically elected, what support do they have within Israel lately?
From my limited point of view, I have heard that the Israeli citizenry are disgusted with the aggressiveness of the region and their own government, as much as Americans are. So I am guessing that I have to be very careful who I "blanket" as being one term or another, when trying to understand the solutions here.
Another example: I am vehemently against the war, and many right-wing idiots call me a "supporter of terrorism", "unpatriotic", "wanting America to lose", and "not supporting our troops". The reverse is true.
Israeli citizens, Likud Party zealots. Zionists. What is the difference?
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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a very long and involved subject, so let me summarize:
those seeking to drag Israel (and/or America) into a pointless war with Iran will destroy Israel.
Israel exists - whether one agrees with the original notion or not - it has been there for sixty years. It should be a successful and popular country. It is not.
how does Israel gain - except for a little bit of land - by persecuting the Palestinians ? What did it get out of its vicious attack on Lebanon ? Nothing.
Its reputation is so low that it is alarming.
It is a country that needs to reinvent itself without its existence requiring the crushing and stealing from others.
The Likudniks are as good for Israel as the Neo-Cons are for America. What matters at the moment is to get the extremist fingers off the nuclear buttons - because they will press them if they get the chance.
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Antisthenes
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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please watch democracy now today
www.democracynow.org
1 hr streaming video http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2007/jan/video/dnB20070129a.rm&proto=rtsp
very good episode about the million people of america in washinton asking for end to americas genocide in iraq for maintain the rich privileged and access to oil
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Richard Haut
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a million Americans ?
fantastic.
and from Britain ? George Galloway's speech to Parliament, January 2007:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MWR0tavb-zo
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