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Kevin
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 Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: serious magazines published online only? |
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For reasons that may be obvious, I'm interested in the topic of serious magazines published online-only.
By "serious" I don't mean staid, boring, or humorless, but rather professionally written and edited, published reliably on schedule, and in general meeting the quality standards of a solid traditional magazine... whatever the subject area... except that they are published and distributed without using that dead tree stuff.
Magazines in both the consumer and "b to b" areas are of interest.
Can you help pull together a list of these publications? Please post the magazine name and main URL for of all the examples you know of.
Oh, and I'm not looking to include academic journals. Those are great, too, but a different kettle of fish.
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: World-Mysteries web magazine.... |
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As mentioned many times, I am suggesting a e-magazine called World-Mysteries.com.
Alex Sokolowski has built this incredible e-magazine for independent entries like I have submitted.
Lunarpages hosts the website...
http://www.lunarpages.com/index.php
Professional website solutions built it....
http://www.professional-website-solutions.com/
I think there is an absolute need for an e-magazine, to document and display unique architectures, designs, iconic symbols, mathematical phenomena, Cad-Cad solutions, etc. etc., and I think you would be the ideal person to run it...as I wrote to you.
How much of our world is visible pleasure? Lots!!!
And an e-zine might include the most striking architecture, design, artwork, even grafitti, that is award winning, yet not publicly known outside of my local area.
I can tell you about residential homes that are small in size, and literally stop traffic for the striking "period piece 1890s" Victorian replica it was mimicing...
Or commercial properties in a run-downish area that light up whole blocks with its natural beauty!
And where is the e-zine to show it? How does one shout to the world...look at this remarkable structure?
When can you start Kevin?
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Kevin
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about the intensely symbolic or iconically ocult (which is welcome here in the forums, though it may not fit AW).
For stuff that works as architecture, design and building per se...
"I can tell you about residential homes that are small in size, and literally stop traffic for the striking "period piece 1890s" Victorian replica it was mimicing... "
...subjects like these are often an excellent fit for the ArchitectureWeek Postcard format (one great photo, four photos total, with three or four quick paragraphs of text):
http://www.architectureweek.com/topics/postcards-01.html
Or if similar kinds of off-beat architectural gems are worthy of full feature-article treatment, ArchitectureWeek would be pleased to receive such submissions to:
editor at architectureweek.com
And finally, any building in the world is welcome to be documented at Archiplanet.org:
http://www.archiplanet.org/wiki/Add_A_Page
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: Ocult? ...or mainstream Designs? |
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Kevin...
You mention "ocult"...and let me make clear, I am not preaching for any theology or philosophies...but I am amazed at designs that are mainstream today, are considered, or were considered "ocult", inflammatory, paganistic at one time.
I don't have any list at all for the e-zine you mentioned, but in a simple Yahoo search, came up with some interesting examples...
http://www.designspotter.com/#Scene_1
http://www.designboom.com/eng/
http://www.evertrobles.com/ezine4-005.htm
...And a video-associated e-zine which I consider to be very interesting, almost trend-setting...that of electronic text and graphics associated with a video clip...
http://www.darynkagan.com/index.html
I am at a loss for any quality response past this point...but obviously, there are some major league examples out there...very informative.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I guess you might mean exclusively online.
The Architects' Journal has an online version where, in particular, they put the latest architectural news. I get the paper version delivered. However, they still bumped up my subscription by 30% (and removed the news section from the paper magazine) when they launched http://www.ajplus.co.uk/, despite the fact I never use it  |
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Ed and everyone, thanks for this discussion, which hopefully will clarify some things all around.
I guess we could map out a kind of continuum of online publishing, from the individual web page and email, to the forum and blog and personal newsletter, to the web site and ezine, up to the large site and online magazine.
There has been quite a bit of recognition in punditry circles in the last couple of years or so of the "emergence" of a great deal of very successful publishing online in the middle zones of that rough-sketched continuum.
And I'd say that's the zone where the very interesting examples you've posted are inherent. The non-costs of distribution online seem to especially enable this middle zone compared to previous media, which are hard to exploit for enterprises not big enough to shoulder the traditional costs.
Yet the examples I'm especially looking for in this thread are from a different zone. I've seen a lot less discussion and even awareness of the viability and benefits of online-only publishing toward the most substantial end of the continuum.
I can imagine several reasons for this. In a way, a magazine published professionally, on a committed regular schedule, with a multi-person editorial team probably at least anchored by full-time staff, with multiple new articles in every publication issue, might not be considered much of a new phenomenon - even if, or just because, it is published online only.
Also, for the traditional media organs that still provide many of the decibels in the cultural commons, the blogs in particular are different enough in their footprint, being mostly semi-professional, or relatively side activities when done by media professionals, that they are relatively non-competitive to the commentator platforms, as well as being something new and intriguing.
On a side note, quite a few blogs - and http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/ is a proximate example - turn the tables, using a light-middleweight media to watch and criticize the heavyweight media. This delicious turning of the tables seems to result in the heavy media being flattered by the attention, as well as sometimes irritated by the intrusion on their presumptive cultural monopolies.
Getting back to my main point, most of the web sites for magazines online, at this current stage of Web/Internet cultural evolution, are to varying degrees shadow sites for print counterparts. In most cases, the print magazine came first, with its established roster of advertisers and vast consumption of paper and oil, though some magazines since 1999-2000 (the bubble run-up period) started online then went onto paper to find profitability.
Seems to me the phenomenon of real magazines, heavyweight (if light-heavyweight) media published online only is interesting in its own right, and has cultural implications worth exploring repeatedly.
Meanwhile these real magazines online-only are readily lost among the hundreds of glitzy shadow sites of paper-first publications. They may be more directly competitive to the major (magazine-owning) media organs than blogs or other light and middle-weight media. And, I'm not sure, but there may not be very many of them yet.
And that's what I'm looking for help with! Not the blogs and e-zines - fascinating and important in their own right... but a different question:
How many of these real/heavyweight magazines online-only are there? And what's the current list? |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Posssible someone has a list with e-magazines to compare ?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: The Onion |
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The Onion is a free tabloid readily available in Minneapolis/St. Paul in racks outside restaurants and liquor stores. So I would not say it is online only. I'm pretty sure the online version followed the printed version.
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Thanks for that - they are dropping like flies!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: The look and feel of a printed version...like a treasure... |
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Fly in the ointment time...
Today I proudly possess about 30 or 40 books, maybe 30 or so magazines, usually for research archive reasons...
I only hope I live long enough to read all ot them a second time. They are like treasures to me, I am personally attached to some of these articles, maps, descriptions, dictionaries, artistic renditions, etc.
At the same time, I cringe for all the electronic information and references I came across that is long since gone, un-reachable, yet I know I "read it somewhere". I even have kept an old MAC Quadra 840 for the simple reason that somewhere on that hard disk is a treasure trove of research information that even Apple will not help me retrieve. (Oh, and I am lazy too, and broke, that doesn't help)
I don't think one could ever replace the look and feel of my old treasured printed resources, try as I might to replace this information with electronic references.
I have come across one-of-a-kind printed resources at tag sales, in garbage dumps, found a whole library in a dumpster (did that too), and once used as a prop in a fake library wall at the Newark Airport Marriot, the sports bar, wherein Montezuma told Cortez..."You think you are the first to come here, looking like you do (blonde hair, beard, iron tools), I can take you down to the coast and show you whole tribes who look exactly like you do."
Yes, we need to migrate to electronic copies, fine, but I search for old printed resources like others search for gold.
Value of Printed material...
Here is my latest...and I am not prepared to show it... from an old book, I found the Zeus mythology that he let two eagles fly from Greece, to circle the globe, and where they met would be the "omphalos", the entry into the underworld. Then I saw Simcha's "Exodus Decoded" on the history channel, and on top of the Ark of the Covenant are two birds sitting on top of bull's horns, facing each other. Third clue is the Mexican National flag, showing an eagle devouring a snake, on a trident Saguarro cactus.
With all this print-based research that I have found, combined with the electronic internet research I have done, I believe the eagles on the Ark are the first clue and challenge, and the trident of the Saguarro cactus with the eagle and snake on the center prong is the solution to the riddle.
The eagles met on the opposite side of the world, at the geographic center of the Western Hemisphere... identified I believe as the Valley of Mexico... and the Aztec name for "Omphalos" is "ombligo", the "umbilical", the "belly button of the moon", and I say, the entry to the underworld, the "tat land", the Tenoch-titlan".
My "wild and crazy theoriies" aside, let me cast a thunderclap vote in favor of print media, which I view as treasure for all generations, long after bits and bytes crash into nothingness. Each has a role, print media has a stronger role, in my opinion.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Kevin wrote: | Thanks for that - they are dropping like flies!
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Maybe not. Here is one that I think is online only...
http://interactiverv.com/index.htm
This is a format I believe some paper published magazines use as an option to paper. I get "Professional Builder" and "Building Design & Construction" magazines this way in the same or similar format that emulates the printed page.
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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What we seem to be ignoring in this thread is .... money.
Magazine publishing is not as profitable as it once was and so the use of the internet can seem very attractive. However the nature of the information, and the readership change.
The "RV" magazine example is fascinating because it is a real magazine put online.
I believe that a magazine which contains a lot of information to read, with longer and more complex articles, still requires a print edition.
Snippets of information or shorter articles are suitable for the web.
Also the web is best for information where time matters. I used to produce a magazine version of my own service each week, but even with very fast turnround of information, the printing and distribution forced delays in the readers receiving information.
I chose email as the best method of distribution and consider that a web-based publication simply has no way of paying for itself.
From the point of view of the magazine producer/publisher, those who want something-for-nothing can only be treated as "readership" if the publication is 100% supported by advertising. That means that a publication which directs itself solely at the flashy advertising and uses editorial as "filler" to occupy the spaces between the advertising will be the result. And there are enough of those magazines around already.
The only other way is, like Artifice, to have the magazine as part of a larger range of services where (presumably) profits come from the other services provided.
In short, to answer Kevin's original point, I believe that there is interest in more serious online publications - but I would question whether or not there is a market for them.
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