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Ghazaleh
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 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: ARB examination |
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Hi there;
I am going to take part in ARB examinationpart I/II. Have any body taken part in ARB examination before to give me some idea?
Thanks
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solidred
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| I'm afraid I can't help much (I've never seen the exam, let alone sat it) but you're right to try and find out as much as you can prior to sitting it as I understand that, if you don't pass on the first occassion, you have to pay the (expensive) fee again for a re-sit.
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Ghazaleh
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Dear Solidred;
As my degree have been issued in a non-prescribed ARB university (in another country) I have to pass the exam to equivalent my degree to a UK recognized one.
However I have to pay around 2000 pound for the examination, I'm afraid, even for the first occasion.
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terencechatfielduk
Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: ARB Exam |
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Ghazaleh,
I've sat the Part 1 (almost 4 years ago now), and one of my former work colleagues did as well. I only got Part 1, he got both Part 1 and 2, mainly as his work was everything they wanted to see whereas mine wasn't.
Both of us found it very stressful, and I would describe it as about the worst critique type experience I've had in my life, worse than I think any crit at University.
Rude, arrogant, unfocussed, are all terms that could apply to the ARB examiners I saw. If you are not prepared they will frankly nail you.
To prepare (and I've been preparing to go back over the past 3 and a half years, must be bloody stupid/have nothing better to do with my time/money) I would suggest going to the ARB website first, and reading what they have there. You will as I understand it have to pass every part of the criteria to get through. You don't have to be brilliant (god knows I've seen enough architects who've got through unioversity and yet have met the criteria, beats me how) but you do have to meet the criteria that their little tickbox oriented minds have.
I would really recommend, don't just meet the criteria as set out, but be sure that you really, really cover the sustainability angle. I can't overemphasise the importance of that. Design, development, issues about not just teh building by lifetime of the building, social, political and economic etc, cover it all.
I would suggest also only applying for Part 1 in the first instance. If you fail the first one, and the Part 2 is a day after and they don't give the Part 1 then you have blown £2000 and not (Just!) £1000. That kind of money would be a nice holiday for just about anyone.
When you are sure you satisy ALL of the criteria for the Part you are going for, i would suggest giving a school of architecture near where you are a telephone call, and asking if you can talk with say the head of school or one of their senior lecturers, with a view towards going for the ARB exam. I've done that myself and I have found that they are very helpful people, and will often have been on ARB panels themselves so will know the kind of thing they are looking for and the standard required. Beside which, they have to make sure their own students meet the criteria so you will get good feedback.
If they give the OK, then and only then would I suggest risking your money.
A seperate option is to hope that the ARB reform group make some headway in the next few months, and get the whole ARB exam scrapped. Wishful thinking I think though, given the people who run ARB itself, and the non-architect board members, don't really seem to give a sh*t about non-EU educated architects and the effect their rules have. They certainly don't seem to care when it comes to even British trained and qualified architects, so if you are outside the club anyway (and I'm really thinking masonic lodge here), then why would they care any more?
Another option is, if you can't be bothered with ARB, is just to move to another country where they are less bureaucratic than the UK, where none of the crap that ARB require is even thought about, and thereby save yourself a lot of money, time and frustration. Besides which, you won't have to do a Part 3.
I've half a mind to move to Ireland myself (my wife is from County Cork), and thereby avoid the expense and bullshit that ARB represent, seeing as the Royal Irish Institute of Architects (RIAI), like the RIBA, recognise my degree, and only require me to do a Part 3 to be up to speed with local law to be a full chartered member.
Hope that helps and isn't too negative, but after years of trying to get something together for ARB, and having had once change in criteria along the way, the fee hiked from £290 for a resit to £1000, and found that ARB are as useful and as helpful in the process as an ashtray on a motorbike, I'm hard pressed to be positive about the subject.
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Ghazaleh
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Location: Manchester, UK
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Dear terencechatfielduk;
Many thanks for your reply. It was absolutely helpful. As I had no idea what is going on in the ARB your written opened my eyes. Any ways, I think I have to sit at least part I unless I find another better way!!!
Would you please give me some idea about RIAI? If I register with them can I still work in the UK or it is just for Ireland? Can I register with the ARB after with the RIAI? Or again I should pass those bloody exams?
And have you passes the ARB exam and would you help me with it? By the way I am not going to take your time but I appreciate every single word from you.
Again many thanks and looking forward to hearing from you soon.
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terencechatfielduk
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Ghazaleh,
I have asked the RIAI for details myself just this week as to membership, but from previous correspondence I can say that it really is only for those who would be in Ireland for some time, as they would be requiring you to obtain a years experience in Ireland before being able to join as a full member. After all, they are the "Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland", and being in Ireland at teh time of joining would seem a natural precondition, as would be demonstrating fitness to practice in Ireland, part of which would be demonstrated through obtaining experience there.
After that I guess you could move to the UK though? I would imagine there would be a requirement in that for EU citzenship as well, as the rules about transfer of status as a professional across EU countries would I think be questionable if you are not EU. At least, that seemed to be the answer to a query I made to ARB a few years ago. Are an EU citizen? I am only a UK citizen by virtue of naturalisation a few weeks ago myself.
There is also the catch that the RIAI (like the RIBA) would need to recognise your degree for their own Part 2 requirements. I've asked them if they recognise my University of Queensland degree and they have said yes to the Part 2, but you would need to ask them specifically about your degree. If your degree was from an RIBA recognised institution I assume that would help, but you would really have to ask them directly.
Hope that Helps.
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Ghazaleh
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Dear terencechatfielduk;
I am not a Uk oy EU citizen and I'm afraid my degree is not recognized by RIBA. I just searched RIAI website and I found that Ireland is in need of architect and I'm just wondering how can I work there? what are the requirements or do they have any axamination? The web site didn't mention any thing about it and I'm still searching.
I may send an e-mail to info@riai.ie but I'm not sure it works!!!
Again many thanks for all your helps.
will keep in touch
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terencechatfielduk
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Ghazaleh,
This link to a very juicy titbit (if I say so myself) may not help you in your situation, but then again may help others, so posted here.
http://www.- abuse alert -/AARU%20education.htm#exam
Good luck with your endeavours regardless.
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Ghazaleh
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abbytula
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Location: nigeria
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Hello every one,
pls further information is required on the standard procedure for part 1,if you have done it or you know who has,will apprefciate further contribution.
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