ARE THEY NOT HUMANS?

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Was war on Iraq justified?
No not at all
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Wars are always unjustified
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nipesh



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: ARE THEY NOT HUMANS? Reply with quoteFind all posts by nipesh
When America says to protects its citisens then its cool, but when it comes to Iraqi citisens America seems to even forget that they are humans.........Even UN didn't wanted a war but America did it and failed to procure any weapons.........how come a nation which is expeted to develop outer-space is distroying peace and harmony on this earth.....Are the torturing of innocent and poor iraqs justified? They are first boomed by Saddam and now why by America? Don't they share this earth with us? Don't they have the right to live happyly? Are they not HUMANS?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by girish chandran
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by rokdd
yes you are right. but i am a little bit frightend, because only a few of persons had made the biggest SH**. i had read that george bush had not known the truth of all the lys and so. what's going on when the president is manipulipated by so a small number of people?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Kevin
It is the job of the U.S. President to know what is going on when he leads the country to pre-emptive war. There is no acceptable excuse that 'the President was manipulated'.

It's hard for some of us to hear "America did it" and "America" did that and so on. While super-patriots and poets in the U.S.A. like to merge the concepts of USA and America, strictly speaking, the USA is only part of North America, let alone America overall.

But it this case, its even harder to hear, because millions of Americans protested against the war in Iraq, and didn't believe the flimsy excuses offered to us and the world. Sadly, the vindication of that skepticism and those protests (in the US, UK, and most of the world) still hasn't stopped the wrongful death and destruction in Iraq.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
"Euro countries like France and Germany, with their large Arab populations, don't have the courage to play a role"

No amount of racist remarks will make the faked-up and forged nonsense that the US put in front of the United Nations any less false.

If you do not understand the terms "racial stereotyping" and "collective blame" I would refer you to the website of Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Memorial site. There you will see clearly described the way that the Nazis used these methods against the Jews.

Then check out what the Israeli Justice Minister, Lapid, has been saying about the Israeli behaviour in Rafah.

If you manage to do all that, just consider that the only recent chemical terror attack was in the US - anthrax used against US citizens. Muslims ? From Fort Detrick ?

Certainly Muslim terrorists exist, but terrorists are extremists, destroyers. They have to be isolated, not promoted. Bush has done so much to help bin Laden that it has been reasonably pointed out that bin Laden is the one person in the world who can secure the Presidency for Bush.

Now ask yourself the hard question - if Bush knew that he was secure for another Presidential term if he did not obstruct (to use a polite term) another attack on the US mainland, but could well lose if he stopped the attack, what would he do ?

No, it has nothing to do with Europe - it is an American problem, your problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
"Sour grapes" ?

No Donald - I do not envy racism.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
Oh please Donald - don't mistake me for some Pinko Liberal.

I am no Peacenik - far from it.

Stop calling everybody "terrorists". When you kill their children and steal from them, then they are your enemies.

You wanted a war. You've got a war.

"Suppose that they gave a war and nobody came ?
Why then the war would come to them."
-Berthold Brecht
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Hate the sin not the sinner! Reply with quoteFind all posts by nipesh
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Why people always talk at killing those terorists.........NO ONE IS BORN AS A TERRORIST.........When American medical science has developed so much and there are so many well known psychologists why don't they find out some other solution for sweeping up terrorism from some humans like "us".... Rolling Eyes ........
War is no solution...it takes things from bad to worst....this world has witnessed many but none of those wars were of any use....either a party wins or loses in war its always a big B**** for both of them..

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
you seem to have left off the Iranian airliner blown out of the sky by a US warship which had invaded Iranian waters.

you seem to have left off the over 1 million Iraqi children killed by the US/UK enforced sanctions.

you seem to have left off the fact that Osama bin Laden was trained, equipped and financed by the US Government.

you seem to have left off the fact that Saddam and Osama are ideological enemies, not allies.

you seem to have left off the fact that Bush actually had to stop himself laughing (check the film) when he pretended that Iraq COULD attack the US, because he was fully aware that it was ridiculous.

you seem to have left off the fact (from FBI records) that the FBI were given the chance to stop the first attack on the WTC and refused.

you seem to have left off the fact that a thirty year terror campaign in Britain was financed by US citizens.

you seem to have left off the fact that America refused to fight in Europe in WWII until it had been paid and paid and paid.

you seem to have left off the fact that America deliberately reduced its immigrant quotas to stop many Jews escaping the Nazis.

You are an American - but be careful what it is that you support.

In the meantime you have your war - and your casualties.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
antiAmerican ?

before we get the usual reply - let me just point out that I believe that anyone who supports the degradation of America by the current administration is deliberately working against the pride and decency for which America was known.

similarly, Blair in Britain has shamed the British military in a way that I would not have thought possible.

- and of course ..... Israel. Israel under Sharon is not a Jewish state because it shames and betrays the humanity of Judaism and insults the memory of those who died in the Holocaust.

and the original question ? yes they are human beings.

under the rulings of the prosecutors at Nurnberg and the Japanese war crimes trials over half a century ago, those who deny that humanity may have to pay with their lives.

the question - the only question - is how many the quartet of evil: bin Laden, Bush, Blair and Sharon - will murder before they are either brought to justice or - like Sharon's role-model Shimon Petlyura - gunned down.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
antiAmerican ?

before we get the usual reply - let me just point out that I believe that anyone who supports the degradation of America by the current administration is deliberately working against the pride and decency for which America was known.

similarly, Blair in Britain has shamed the British military in a way that I would not have thought possible.

- and of course ..... Israel. Israel under Sharon is not a Jewish state because it shames and betrays the humanity of Judaism and insults the memory of those who died in the Holocaust.

and the original question ? yes they are human beings.

under the rulings of the prosecutors at Nurnberg and the Japanese war crimes trials over half a century ago, those who deny that humanity may have to pay with their lives.

the question - the only question - is how many the quartet of evil: bin Laden, Bush, Blair and Sharon - will murder before they are either brought to justice or - like Sharon's role-model Shimon Petlyura - gunned down.
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nipesh



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Put that out and think! Reply with quoteFind all posts by nipesh
Sad When you compare the list of causalities either due to America or due to Terrorist.....those who suffers are neither the Terrorist nor the American deligates.........Its cool to have a fight between America and Terrorist but why do those innocent people who did nothing are suffering Question
So many people died at WTC so are we bound to kill that many people from the country of origin of that terrorist Question
America is behind the development of Osama....just think had he been not developed or helped to rise then would there been a day like sep'11.
Then now if we wish to kill out terrorism out of this earth rather than terrorists then can't we suceed.........
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Arrow Just think it by taking out the spects of patriotism of you...........just think as a human....."A HUMAN"

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
"One person with a belief is equal to a force of 99 who have only interests."
- John Stuart Mill

"I am not aware that any community has a right to force another to be civilized."
- John Stuart Mill

"Whatever crushes individuality is despotism."
- John Stuart Mill
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut
the word that you were seeking to spell was "liberated".

"we come as liberators not conquerors" - that was said by British General Maude when the British troops invaded Iraq in 1917.

obviously if people do not want to be "liberated" and to have the wealth of their country stolen, then you can just carry on killing their children and bravely sticking broomsticks up the backsides of Iraqis picked up off the street.

now go back to leering over the abuse pictures.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by nipesh
Why don't you come to the point..................... Sad are Iraqis treated as humans by their invaders(or liberator..what ever it be)............If not why Question

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