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msulli Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: I need gossip on Frank Gehry's Walt Disney Concert Hall Any gossip that you have heard, good or bad, is acceptable on the process of completing the Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. Gossip meaning it doesn't have to be right, so don't worry about that. It can be regarding Gehry or the building itself. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Donald Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493	Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: You can read all about it in this article. From the looks of it, it appears to be another "beacon for the community" type project...rightfully deserving in LA's downtown: http://www.kcet.org/lifeandtimes/arts_disneyhall.php BTW, you can see how Gehry teaches kids how to design things of great beauty like the Disney Concert Hall in a cartoon series where he is to star on PBS' Arthur cartoon series, as the series attempts to get kids interested in architecture. Arthur the 8-year-old aardvark and his gang of animal pals are devastated when their tree house collapses under the weight of snow. Gehry guest stars as the guy (er, aardvark?) who saves the day by helping them learn about team cooperation, incorporating client needs, budgets, and spatial considerations as they design and rebuild their perfect space.    Filesize:  22.9 KB  Filename:  Gehryvark.jpg  Viewed:  389 Time(s)
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Donald Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 493	Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: In adding to the "gossip" column, you can also log in that the filing of claims by contractors after the completion of a major project is not unexpected particularly when the building is as complex as the WDConcert Hall. The GC for the project claimed that it and more than 20 subs were owed a total of $43 million by developer Walt Disney Concert Hall Inc. for "delays and difficulities" arising during the construction that resulted in escalations...imagine that The suit by the GC claimed that Disney made unreasonable demands for changes and "extra work" after construction began...I wonder if Gehrey really did detail every condition of every twist and turn in the project ...doubt it? Disney countersued claiming that the GC was aware of the complexity of the project when it agreed to complete the work in a little more than 3 YEARS ....doubt it again....I guess that Arthur the aardvark will be truely disappointed when he hears that contractors also sue for work that was imagined by the Disney wonderkinds et al, after not know howing how to put it to paper before contract documents were completed and signed.
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svenglezz-ASMEIL Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto	Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: ....that does not surprise me...... Hello, I don't have any gossip for this, just want'd t'a make a comment. Thanx for the info from Donald....just a reminder t'a stay away from a big~as* job'z like that....I could image if the Architecural drawings w'r not complete....wonder how bad the Mech. and Elect. drawings w'r.....sounds like my ASMEIL service would help'd cut the "extras" in half Anywho...thanx for the insight, Sven email: svenglezz @ yahoo.com WEB: http://ca.geocities.com/cad-design@rogers.com/ _________________ ASMEIL Drawings and M&E Designs
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