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Richard Haut
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 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject: "Blair heralds election victory" |
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I was curious to see what Blair would have to say - his own political party despises Bush, Blair's wife was told off by the Americans for making anti-Bush statements in America within the last couple of days and apparently Blair himself let it be known that he "favoured" Kerry.
So I turned to the article in the Independent headed "Blair heralds election victory". What did it say ?
"Prime Minister Tony Blair has welcomed the election of President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan and said it demonstrated the scale of the transformation of the country since the overthrow of the Taliban."
- British humour. Love it.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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well the world should be heralding the election....
b/c at least with all the contraversy and interests at stake...the election went through...there was little to argue over...and unlike some places no one is rioting and killing people b/c they didn't win...
for being such a highly anticipated election it actually went off with very few hitches and now it almost seems underwhelming...
but oh well...time to move on |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:13 am Post subject: |
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British humour - didn't think it would mean anything to you.
news is coming out that Arafat was poisoned. You must be so proud. (Let's not pretend to be too shocked - the Israelis and their American buddies could hardly be expected to tolerate Arafat letting the world know that the US/Zionists were using poison gas on Palestinian civilians, at least before the US election).
Yes, Afghanistan - record drug crops. Go with your skills.
In case you still do not understand - the world did not give a shit about your election. America declared war on the rest of the world. The election was your only chance to back off. You didn't - now wait and see what happens about the draft because the chance of you and your college buddies surviving "another four years" took a turn for the worse yesterday.
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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you wanted war - you will have war.
your words no longer matter. As an american no nation in the world believes what you have to say.
yesterday the Hungarians announced the withdrawal of their troops from Iraq (pause for faked-up anti-Hungarian ravings from Donald ...). Perhaps the Hungarians remember what trash the US are as "friends" when they were incited by the US to rebel against the communists and then betrayed by the USA in 1956 - exactly the way that Bush Senior betrayed the Kurds in Iraq.
perhaps the older Hungarians remember the betrayal of Hungary's Jews by the Zionists and the Americans - Eichmann's friends.
Like I said - I don't like Nazis.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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the "story" about the WMD being in Syria - it was Sharon who first came up with that one, and the Israeli press called him a liar.
the reason that the Hungarians chose the 4th. of November to announce their troop withdrawal is that the Russian tanks rolled into Budapest on 4th. November 1956. Tens of thousands died. Betrayed by America.
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Blair's speech was hilarious - if a bit desparate.
oh come on guys, it's george, you remember george. Be nice to him.
And the world says no - he is a liar and a bully.
Perhaps you (and maybe even gullible Blair) do not realise what Brits really think of americans.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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and the Brits are one of America's last allies.
keep insulting them Donald - it is what they expect of Americans.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:23 am Post subject: |
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don't try to scare me with a draft...
there isn't going to be one, it is that simple
no one in the military wants a inscripted army...they are not dependable and they cost alot of money...
you aren't going to scare me into thinking there will be a draft, its been killed by BOTH parties... even if the republicans totally supported it, they don't have a big enough share of the seats to push it through without help....the draft will not happen...BUSH CANNOT INDEPENDANTLY INITIATE A DRAFT...learn how the system works before you go claiming what the results will be |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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tragically there has to be a draft.
you voted for a war-mongering president and you can hardly be surprised that he intends to attack other nations and is at this very minuite escalating the barbarity in Iraq.
if you had allies, it might be different - but because of Bush's behaviour the next wars may involve the US on its own.
why were people around the world so concerned about your election ? they don't care how Americans vote. The reason was that the election was America's last chance to step back from its war-mongering. Now Bush believes that he has a mandate to kill - and he intends to use it.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: |
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ah so you have the privilege of knowing the president's mind?
that must be a fine power to have....
if it came down to it...and it will not...the administration would simply not go to war rather than end up with a situation where a draft exists...
you seemed to have totally passed over the 2 points that are probably most crucial to the draft issue...
since vietnam the united states military has been absolutely committed to staying away from a conscript fighting force...no enlisted person wants to have someone next to them that can't be trusted to be their when they need them...and that is the stigma of a conscript army
the military also cannot take the time, effort, and money to train people in the very complicated issues of modern combat just to have them walk away after a 1 year tour...
no one had to be learned in GPS systems, languages, civil affairs, ect ect during vietnam... the military is very modern and the type of military that is necessary is the kind that has experience and willingly joined... those people will be around long enough and committed to the military in order to justify spending the hundreds of thousands of dollars training costs...
not to mention the huge investment that must be made simply to get the draft up and running...the gigantic voter drives is a good example...there is alot of young americans who aren't even registered for the draft right now, since you generally do it at the same time as you register to vote when you turn 18... the amount of time and money it would take just to organize the system to start a draft up would be prohibitive in and of itself
and once again...bush cannot just start a draft...it takes an act of congress...congress which has already struck down a draft proposal and not on partisan lines...but the entire congress struck it down
you can sit here and ramble on about the doom and gloom future of young americans...but you apparently haven't considered any of the practical issues that any draft is controlled by...
and to what end is bush a war monger? you can argue he wants oil in iraq...well then what need is there to go into iran? we have oil under control now...so there wouldn't be much reason to occupy iran...if bush wanted a war with them anyway...it could be an entirely air campaign... there would hardly be a reason to occupy N. Korea...and there wouldn't even be a reason to invade...
so whatever your reasoning might be...probably just paranoid ramblings...things don't seem to add up to a absolutely certain draft situation...but i don't know....i guess i have just lived in the US for 22 years...with a father and uncles who were involved in the previous draft vietnam... but i obviously have no idea...only pretentious europeans know the inner workings of the conscription system in the united states, since they have so much expereience with it and all... |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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let me be straightforward - I really don't care whether or not america has a draft.
you wanted a war. you've got a war.
where Bush gets the suckers from is his problem.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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well then stop preaching about a draft if its so unimportant to you...obviously it isn't very important to many here...b/c it isn't going to happen...so why continuously bring it up?
i did not want a war...i didn't propose going to war...
i don't see any interest in further war as of yet... there hasn't been any actions towards iran or korea...and both of those situations have important ramifications to many more countries than the iraq situation... the united states isn't the only one who is interested in iran not getting nuclear weapons |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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"i did not want a war...i didn't propose going to war... "
Bush and those around him used lies, forged evidence, threats and racist abuse to attempt to justify a war on Iraq.
it was an american prosector at the Nurnberg war crimes trials who described that as a crime against peace which he said was not just a crime "but THE crime".
you knew that, and yet on your own adminission supported and voted for him again.
you have openly and of your own free will endorsed that action.
at this very moment American forces are yet again attacking Fallujah. So horrific is that attack that a Saudi charity hospital has been literally razed to the ground. America uses 500-pound bombs, illegal canister bombs, AC130's specially equipped for ground-strafing, attack helicopters, 40-ton Abrams tanks and snipers to attack areas it knows full well are civilian.
In the last attack on Fallujah a multitude of reports came from many different people - from doctors to reporters and others - about US snipers deliberately targetting old people and children.
Kofi Annan tried to warn how destructive such an attack would be for the people of Iraq - but your government simply insulted him.
Your government has made it perfectly clear that it wants to attack Iran.
You supported and endorsed that - and now you snivel with fear in case you might have to serve your own country.
You know why so many nations are certain that America will lose ? Because it is full of people like you.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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hey keep the personal attacks coming...very high brow
i'm not the sniveling one... you are... you seem to think you are some how really getting to me with this draft thing...
and you just keep disregarding all the facts revolving around a draft situation... and even after conceding that it is unimportant to you, you continue to bring it up, even though i have demonstrated it is very unimportant to me, and viewed as unimportant by most here in the united states b/c we have an entire generation that was part of a draft in vietnam many of whom were children of those drafted in WW2...
we know about drafts in the united states better than europe knows about our draft system... i'm am not concern with a draft, and since you claim to not be as well... how about we just drop it
furthermore, i did not say i wanted this war ever, and i did not start it...
regardless of who was elected the war would have continued... so it is a moot point to sit here and talk about the continuation of the war as if it is somehow only connected to bush... the war would have continued under kerry as well...a man who admitted to committing illegal actions in the time of war... that certainly seems like a characteristic we would want in iraq...
what would be the point of using snipers to kill women and children? please tell me...how is that a stategic action? what would be the advantage of targetting people who pose absolutely no threat to you? what goal is being furthered in that action?
there isn't an answer to that, b/c the original proposal is so ridiculous
what would be the point of purposely targetting women and children with sniper fire?
the rashomon theory at its best |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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the point of sniping at women and children ? no idea. maybe - like the Abu Ghraib abuse - Americans see it as "fun".
read Kofi Annan's statement. He expresses himself better than I can on this subject. The US strategy is totally counter-productive - it alienates the Iraqis.
the USA is your country. You had a chance to stop Bush - and chose not to. War is war. Americans will have to fight if it spreads. How Bush raises the troops is a problem for americans.
Rashomon ? "Truth is like water: Just enough quenches the thirst and keeps you clean - but too much and you drown".
for a nation as thirsty as america the theory is a long way from being of the slightest concern.
more relevant is Brecht's saying: "suppose that they gave a war and nobody came, why then the war would come to them".
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