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csintexas
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 Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: Is the HGTV "green" giveway House green? |
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http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/green_home/
What do you think?
I think it is the best effort by a for profit company that sells building products that I have seen but it doesn't deserve the green label.
The decorating is mostly yucky. And the design is fairly poor. It matches the hybrid Yukon parked out front. The best I can say is that it could be worse. At least it is only 2000 sq. ft. heated.
The back yard needs something though. ...Maybe a couple of dozen concrete lawn ornaments?
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djswan
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Yepper, she's a doozy. Green has lost it's meaning. Keep educating.
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csintexas
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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I think we should only call buildings green when they are actually sustainable and will solve our future problems. Doing less is like giving every child an A on their test no matter if they actually scored a C and leads the average American into believing they are doing better than they actually are.
The people we took over this country from where truly green. They lived here ten or twenty thousand years and didn't even scratch the fender. So I think if we need a measure of how green something is then that level of green can serve as the ideal. So on a scale of 1 - 10 that would be ten.
Obviously (as a society) we will not be able to or want to go back to living off the land so it isn't that lifestyle which is the goal but the amount of burden on the environment.
Even though we could easily do worse I think the current worst practices of today should represent 1 so for example that homeowner in the news last summer living in a McMansion and spending thousands of dollars a month on water when the community was in drought would be a 0.
So on this scale I think anything 9 or above can be considered green. Meaning that people could continue living that way for the entire habitable lifespan of the Earth.
Given the current population and population growth rate and the serious changes to global temperature that are now occuring I would have to rate this HGTV "green" house as being around 4 on the true green scale.
So if 9 or above is green and say 1 or below is black then this house is more black than green.
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djswan
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There is a vast dangerous sea of modern human stupidity out there. I have listened to too many brilliant scientist suggest that we just relax, forget about it, kick back and drink beer. We have a done too much damage. Too little too late, to solve it. It will solve itself. Twenty five billion people.
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csintexas
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Yeah, I agree the Earth always balances things out in the end. I don't know if it will take 25 billion though, 7 billion is already breaking it's back.
Well I am pessimistic that we could change our ways any time soon enough to prevent trouble also but it is still an interesting subject.
Lately my thinking is that this is just evolution in action. Even with all of our technology we are still very much like all other life on Earth. Nature hates a vacuum. So I guess I have to agree with those scientist. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Humanity is in for hard times in the future but things will eventually get better. We are very fortunate to be born in this country in this time. I don't think Americans born 40 years from now will have such a nice life.
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djswan
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History has shown evolution works. Proven technology.  I doubt we'll reach 25,000,000,000. 7,000,000,000 people is plenty to much. Imagine the amount of architecture. I
It's looking like the hippies from the late sixties and early '70s were right. It's taken me some time to reach those conclusions. Google earth and internet helped with that.
Drink beer
Derek
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