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Kevin
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P.C.
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Hi
When I started to work with computers and programs, my background was boatbuilding.
I simply found it silli that technology develobed back in the 17' century over time havn't changed more to adabt the exiting options to make chumps of rutines into digital descriptions and functions to save day's of boring and somtimes in accurate 2D representations of somthing that by core is realy 3D.
But when I started knowing nothing, my expertations on the other hand could easily add up, ----- maby somwhere along the way I would find those handy tools I knew had to be there, it was a computer and a CAD program and from the simple rutines that acturly worked, I did not doubt that what I was looking for, was there.
Well they did not occour before I programed them myself, bringing me the knowleage that surely the options are there, but it is better develobing them yourself than using somthing you only know how work, not how put together.
So I am very glad to se the respect for the crafts, the obsession of detail and feel of quality in this article.
After spending years as unregistrated student at the architect school, I stepped up a few steps and aplied to fullfill the project about develobing design tools for boats building ,using none of the tradisional drafting idears but going from a 3D model, into a 2D unfolding of the surfaces ,and by the means of the tradisional way to se a structure ,everything was evaluated by bringing a number of actural boat hulls that fit the dimensions in the drawing ------ but somthing was still missing :
Guess most se the structure as the outher limits, the panels or surface and this ,not the structure is what most envision . Not the whole or the structure but the surface.
A ship or boat is ormaly build by projecting the framework that will hold the panels. Most efford is spend in an inviroment where there are horisontal and vertical lines as helpers to measure distances on one plane to be transfered onto another plane , making a number of 2D ,XY, measures, into a 3D drawing that acturly is a number of 2D measurments.
This way you are tight up in a perception that do not allow you to emagine other tools to bring the vision , and realy 3D-H also work this way ; it bring a number of 2D cut frames, but the assembly do not follow the tradisional vertical and horisontal guide lines, ------- it is a very little step towards 3D ,but one that make an enourmous freedom ,as without thinking within the tight tools avaible, the program generate an assembly of boxes and frames that work so much better, than the framework and rib structures ,first develobed and put into Math. back in the 17' century.
Still it is nice when you se the respect about the old crafts, but this must count for the new trends to ------ those develobed ontop and documented by skills and knowleage about the old crafts, even yielding results that is different than what we expect, but othervise those results and visions would not be new would they ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3d-honeycomb-open/
Realy this is what act as the main struggle ,when you don't have a perception of the intire structure but only the limits. |
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SDR
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: Woodenware |
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P.C. -- So, this is where I find you! Well, you can't keep a good craftsman down; he'll find a way to home somehow. I was just cruising this new website looking for interesting subjects and, being a woodworker by trade, I came here. And here you are, too! So now I know a little bit more -- I'm not dealing with a theorist when it comes to the making of things. And here there is a link to your group, where I could hope to see more of your seductive images, but I wasn't able to complete a membership request. So I shall try again; I am about to upgrade my iMac to OS X operating system (have been having some troubles). And am I going to have to study the Danish language, too, in order to enhance our communication? Yes, I can decipher most of your meanings (with a little "poetic license" applied to the mix!). Maybe that will be my contribution to your efforts, someday: spokesman and interpreter! Anyway, it's good to find you here, too.
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P.C.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Got me on that one  )
Anyway it's true I spended 3 years at the architect acadamy here in copenhagen, even I never got registrated as student, and true I had several projects develobing designs and my own software at the states workshops for arts and crafts.
Did you check out a search about Cyber-Boat at yahoo ;
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=3d+honeycomb
Or how many 3D-H groups at yahoo ;
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=3d+honeycomb
Still the tread is about crafts , and I guess you agrea that this also mean crafts in terms of the new tools, -------- I find these values a better foundation than the theory I never realy was able to make use of, I find that develobment show aswell hands-on and that theory can come after seing the results we can't envision before we investigated, I also think that most true new visions come as a side effect, somthing you sudenly realise after years of work, ------- somthing that make you drop years of work to, to follow a new lead.
Again thanks for your nice reply. |
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