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huc
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 Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| do you mean this post which was moved to a more appropriate section of the forum? |
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dwm
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: Not Appropriate |
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I don't need or want you to decide where a post is appropriate. It was directed to PowerCADD Forum users. That's where I want it.
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huc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:08 am Post subject: it works in libraries & bookstores... |
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You didn't have to decide - a forum administrator was there to pickup the clutter. Just because we want to leave something, somewhere, doesn't mean it's the best place for it.
Grouping posts by subject matter saves culling through dead wood. When I go to the library or bookstore, things are organized in a similar fashion. The model seems to work.
Moving a post doesn't seem unreasonable if it keeps a particular forum on topic. For example this thread might benefit from being moved to the Design Community Discussion section since it has nothing to do with PowerCADD. |
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dwm
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:19 am Post subject: Re: it works in libraries & bookstores... |
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| huc wrote: | | You didn't have to decide - a forum administrator was there to pickup the clutter. Just because we want to leave something, somewhere, doesn't mean it's the best place for it. |
You obviously have children or should.
My position remains the same, I'll use my own brain, Thanks. |
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Mike Wheeler
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:44 am Post subject: |
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If we allow everyone to use their own brain in deciding where messages belong the PowerCADD forum will fill up with posts offering pirated software, cheap - forum abuse -, and countless ways to get rich quick.
There is a forum specifically for the sort of message you posted. If you post it there or we move it there it will be seen by people who can address your concerns.
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JohnMorse
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Location: Birmingham, AL
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Those are really separate issues. The spam should be dealt with by deleting the thread and banning the user. Mislocated postings should typically be moved (with perhaps a notice somewhere). There is reason, I think, to make an exception here, at least for a month or two, since this particular topic is visited mostly by heavy users of the old PowerCADD forum who are used to airing their grievances to each other and not to those poor lonely souls who spend their days reading "community administration" issues. |
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huc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject: Private space vs shared public space |
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| Quote: | You obviously have children or should.
My position remains the same, I'll use my own brain, Thanks. |
We have no children but do deal with them (of all different ages) on a regular basis. In many cases they wonder or question 'why' until the nuances are understood.
The term community responsibility comes to mind. Or, if you prefer, a place for everything and everything in it's place. This is particularly true of shared environments (be they homes, computer servers, boats, or tents, or...). The mess I keep behind closed doors in my office is one thing. The mess I leave in the conference room is quite another.
Private space vs. shared public space are distinctly different. Being the latter, this and other forums seem to require a sense of shared responsibility to keep things organized and running smoothly for everyone.
I'd be happy to continue the discussion in a more appropriate discussion forum as it's clearly off topic with respect to PowerCADD. Mike W, perhaps this thread can be moved so others in the community might share their thoughts on the subject? |
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huc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Mislocated postings should typically be moved (with perhaps a notice somewhere) |
the notice is provided as a big, bold, moved note next to a subject name which seems like reasonable notice.
| Quote: | | ...visited mostly by heavy users of the old PowerCADD forum who are used to airing their grievances to each other and not to those poor lonely souls who spend their days reading "community administration" issues. |
Hence the need to correctly sort the eggs. For example, why should folks be forced to scan items which don't relate to the section being browsed? Things get worse if a subject is vague, requiring someone to read the post only to find it was an administration issue. Same holds true for water cooler chat - there is Fireside forum for just those sorts of things.
Imagine the chaos if we could file a book anywhere we like in a Library. Might make it tough to find things. Worse is it would mean we'd have to wade through a bunch of stuff we're not interested in just to find what we're looking for.
Clearly there is always a judgment call to be made as to where an item should be filed. However, more often than not, the decision is fairly obvious.
BTW - Mike W., thanks for moving the thread |
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dwm
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: huc huc huc |
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Huc
You've made my point clear about how I felt you treated me.
If the introduction to the new forum had been explained more, maybe the complaints, right or wrong would have been less. I managed to register on my own, some have had it done for them. I hope you don't think they're children.
I think my comments are well placed until we get settled with this new system. For what it's worth I like it. It has a lot of neat features that I have started using. I'm also now more aware of the other forums too. I think I see how the icons work, they seem to now.
And I'm very appreciative of the hard work that has been put into it.
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huc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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David M
I too registered on my own. I have also had posts moved.
I never implied nor stated anyone who had problems was a child nor should be treated as one. Nor did it state that mistakes are 'bad' - I make several every day and learn a great deal from them (hopefully).
The original note stated the post should not have been moved and that it was appropriate for the forum to which it was originally posted. I responded to that position in the tone in which it was posted.
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